The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
No advantage at all. Only when we start coming out with profits or at least sub 105 million in loses over the rolling three year period will then give us headroom to spend more.
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No advantage at all. Only when we start coming out with profits or at least sub 105 million in loses over the rolling three year period will then give us headroom to spend more.
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
Someone might need to tell me otherwise but to me this looks just to be a guaranteed loan. They expect interest to be paid and if lucky the value of the club goes up given them more profit at the end if they choose to sell up.
Perhaps the increase in stadium costs just went a little bit too far for Moshiri to cover and basically he's gone to the pawnbrokers to get the amount he needs to finish it and hopes to buy them out at a later date - if he wants to.
Perhaps the increase in stadium costs just went a little bit too far for Moshiri to cover and basically he's gone to the pawnbrokers to get the amount he needs to finish it and hopes to buy them out at a later date - if he wants to.
barneygumble
Player Valuation: £60m
Have to disagree.
In one sense we were, as we were making profit on players , but that’s probably where it stops for me.
Moyes for all his flaws (for me) worked miracles for us, and kept us above despite zero backing by the board.
Brighton invest in their future, they’ve got plans in place for if Potter left, now they do for when de Zerbi goes, they’ve got transfers lined up before the seasons over.
We clung go the hope Moyes wouldn’t leave, whilst that ultimately caused complacency near the end.
We did our business in the final day.
Brentford and Brighton are ran totally different to how we were ran during the Moyes reign, where we often had to sell to balance the books. With those two, they’re selling for huge profit because, they’re a well oiled machine and have the next star lined up.
Davideeyore
Player Valuation: £35m
Catching up on the RM phone in. Caller telling us he met Sharp's wife and he was in tears..
Get the violin out.
Get the violin out.
ForeverBlue92
Player Valuation: £80m
Swansea were once a well oiled machine
Leicester were "the" club to aspire to be just 2-3 seasons ago.
People lauded Wolves/Mendes when they finished 7th twice on the spin signing players like Jimenez, Jota & Neves.
Ultimately every club outside the scab 6 falls back into midtable at one stage or another and we were no different after years of solid recruitment under Wee Davey.
Ultimately my point stands - there was fan unrest when we were in the top 6 under Moyes (and frustrations boiling over when we were finishing 7th/8th under Koeman, Silva & Alladyce).
This fanbase wants the cream of the crop which is why US ownership isn't the right model for us imo. At some stage the bedsheets will be out when the dough isnt being spent to have us back fighting for Europe/top 6 etc.
Same would have happened at Newcastle and Villa had they not been taken over by rich middle east groups and a whack of money thrown at it (in fairness an American is part of Villa's consortium but he's not like these MSP lads who are very tight with the purse strings).
magicjuan
Player Valuation: £60m
No 'oil money' would go anywhere near Everton now, but, if someone came in, tidied up the accounts properly, threw in a stadium showcased at the Euros and a relatively stable team, who knows what money it would attract.
We once had potential, now we have potential potential.
We once had potential, now we have potential potential.
barneygumble
Player Valuation: £60m
Swansea? Not Swansea.
Swansea we’re a side who benefitted massively from a couple of good breaks with centre forwards, who were one season wonders in Michu and Bony.
Leicester had a fantastic model for what it’s worth. Vichai loved that club, and his son doesn’t have the same tact. COVID has hugely impacted King Power.
Wolves spent massively and were benefiting hugely from Mendes, and their tight relationships. Wolves have had a fair few £30m duds too. Brentford and Brighton don’t… the worst they’ve mustered is £11m for Izquierdo.
Moyes kept the club afloat. Not the board or chairman. Brentford and Brighton have a fantastic model which is shown by the fact they’ve only improved since they lost their manager.
There was unrest under Moyes because we needed some investment, the best side o have seen in my lifetime was the side which lost to Fiorentina. That side deserved a trophy, but it needed 2-3 signings to get there. The board couldn’t back Moyes.
What the current Everton need, is stability. If we’ve got Sport knowledgeable US Investors coming in, maximising our profits and making us sustainable before making their money, then fine.
No Gulf State is taking over a side who are hamstrung by FFP, and with £150m+ of debt.
Give them a chance, as it cannot get any worse.
ForeverBlue92
Player Valuation: £80m
What have MSP done with the other football clubs they own stakes in mate ?
The answer here is, What have any investors owners done to any other sports team that are currently investing/looking to invest in a Prem Club, if you can answer that 100% affirmative that ALL, have had success in other sports investment, then maybe you can question it. They may have had success in other areas and limited in sports, they may not, but speculative investment fraught with risk, is not necessarily bad investment.
This isn't having a go , this is a genuine finger in the wind moment, we are ripe for investment even with the sham we currently are, as are maybe other clubs but the reality is, for any potential investor, is there ever a guaranteed return?
Personally, this was ballsed up spectacularly by Kenwright with Mosh, but Its on Mosh for not clearing the decks at day one and appointing a genuine overseer to control it all, instead he relied on a sense of goodwill and trust in Kenwright, he was sadly wrong to do this but was it worth the risk? No idea what Moshiri thinks but currently from his perspective it seems it was/will be.
From our perspective it is obvious what needed and that is a "regime change" we may be about to get it and all that it entails, I for one welcome any investment in a Club that has been sorely depleted and lost its place at the top tier.
Be careful what you wish for, certainly, is it worth a try, 100%
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
Long as MSP get rid of Kenwright and any other lackeys on the board it is all good.
PKwalnuts
Player Valuation: £15m
Disgrace after Disgrace.
If you ever needed proof that the club they claim to love was being mismanaged here is the example.
Arguably our greatest ever side managed by one of our greatest ever players.
No decency left in anyone associated with the running of our club.
BeardedScotsman
Player Valuation: £500k
Your last paragraph tells the whole story. These are money guys. This isn’t Ryan and Rob doing well by a community. This is to make Everton a cash cow. This deal doesn’t happen without the Stadium approval. I understand the frustrations here with Moshiri, but there is limited investment without the commercial opportunities presented by the new stadium.
These guys don’t want to own the club in 10 years. That is not their intention.
That being said, there’s a lot of similarities between where Everton find itself and McLaren. And McLaren F1 prints money for these guys.
Just hope everyone here is clear with what this is.
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
To be fair the communication department have taken on extra duties to provide 24hr surveillance of Kenwright's picture on the Goodison timeline and are constantly dredging canals in case there are any more of unser anführer that have been chucked in. So I doubt they had time to even think of it.
Martin Alvito
Player Valuation: £50m
Touch sad that this is the standard, but it feels like where most of us are at.
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