The Everton Board Thread

[APN_EFC]

I was trying to be kind & fair to the board, and see if there are things they have done that are good, that we can point to.
But then apart from the horrific football decisions, I could only thing of a few bad commercial decisions that also demonstrate incompetence. We can still be critical but not abuse them, and I'm just criticising their decision making.
So, Apart from the fact that three different DoFs and 9 different managers , all from very very different backgrounds & styles ...

- SportPesa to Cazoo to Stake.com. When we cancelled Sportpesa, there was a statement about the ethics of a gambling firm, and then we forgot about the ethics because Stake.com gave us the most money ever? Really?

- Behind the scenes - Finch Farm - imagine if we had not spent, say £40million of the money we'd spent on transfers, and put it into Finch Farm, revamping the knowledge, skills, equipment, provisions. I keep remembering the story of Arsene Wenger transforming Arsenal (and the Premier League) in terms of lifestyles, diets and approaches to football, and wonder if we ever learn anything. Even watching one of the Amazon documentaries you can see how other clubs have nutrition and personalised plans all lined up. Do we? What has the football strategy really led to? If they announced it over a year ago, why not tell us the results? IF they don't want to share the findings, why tell us you're doing a review?

- Behind the scenes - culture. I know that the manager sets the culture and tone of the club, but I wonder sometimes if all the staff behind the scenes also change enough. They must be hard working, skilled professionals, but don't they also need the winning mentality, , or is there a general apathy. There should be a sense of urgency and commitment and focus, every day, in every aspect of the club's work.

- Tim Howard, Tim Cahil. & Steven Pienaar are examples of our inability to capitalise on our contacts and supporters. Those three players are amongst the most successful in their countries, and they seem to love Everton. Apart from the low key ambassador roles they may have, while they were players, and soon after, we did not use their popularity enough. If you have evidence against this let me know, but Tim Cahill seems smart enough to have got an executive role at FIFA, Tim Howard, especially after that World Cup, was an icon in USA, and we might have used their success to set up more formal links to their countries. Did we? and James Rodriguez - it started so well with those simulatenous announcements in Columbia and Florida, but then the way he was dropped just showed how scattergun our approach is.

We do have a good story - even if it's 'plucky little local club' Everton, or 'authentic' people's club - they are stories worth telling, and will attract global fans and new fans in the North West too. Look at how compelling Wrexham were for people in the USA? And if we have a whole club culture that is fun, engaging, a fighting spirit for instance, then from the players to the boardroom with the fans too, we can all embody that - even if it doesn't mean we're winning stuff yet and enjoy the process of improving .

I feel like apart from football, we are missing out on PR, marketing and commercial opportunities and need some skilled people to take that forward.

 

[nsno-chris]

Thats the thing though how do fans know if she did a good job at EITC / isnt doing a good job as CEO? Just because EITC does good work and we've been shabite on the pitch (for longer than she has been CEO for btw) doesn't mean she's the factor behind both.

She's a good egg mate who's gone through quite a bit of an ordeal in recent weeks I think it's harsh to lump her in with Kenwright & Co.

Because the club has no direction, which is her remit. In her tenure we’ve had 3 internal reviews of our operations because we are failing.

Our commercial deals are horrendous, and once Al the Oligarch got binned she has done nothing to reclaim the lost revenue.

She, has CEO, as also lied with regards to the type of sponsorship we would have (we are ethical blah blah, ok hello Stake.com) because she is showing her inability to negotiate.

We were also the only club to go through a full season without a sleeve sponsor, again impacting revenue.

The commercial deal with KitBag is disastrous, wrong orders being received, issued with refunds. She has not done anything to rectify this on behalf of evertonians, her main customer.

The comms department has become nonexistent, people are still being treated poorly by the club if they criticise anything to do with the club, there’s very little engagement with the fanbase we have no updates whatsoever from anyone within the club, including our DoF.

All this is her remit as CEO, it’s day to day operations

On top of all that, she has stuck by a complete lie that she was assaulted during a match. Absolute vile and disgraceful, not only against evertonians but every woman that has been seriously assaulted in the workplace

So no, she’s not a good egg at all

 

[banno]

The chairman runs the club by definition, as shown multiple times. So any misspend or poor decision has occured under his stewardship. Stop trying to defend your hero by deflecting everything on to the absent owner who has barely attended a game since taking over and has left the same serial failure/liar in charge..... you're simply playing along with Kenwright's age old strategy of deflection and divide and conquer.

During his tenure, the club has been hollowed out to a shell of its former self on every metric. Moyes papered over the process for over a decade by managing a pitiful budget (zero budget), to put a decent team on the pitch despite Kenwright and certainly not because of him. We won nothing!

By the time Kenwright HAD to sell, because the wolves were still at the door and there was nothing left to sell off. We had been left behind by all our peers and taken over by several more besides.... stumbling down the income league. Our property assets were stripped to the bone, our debts were mounting and our stadium issues had still not been even remotely addressed. A process that mysteriously saw him acquire a controlling shareholding that his personal wealth could never have possibly afforded... by various dubious connections and scheming.... while the manager had to continually sell to buy in league awash with money! He delivered nothing and added no value!

Kenwright did better....? Kenwright sold our future to stay in charge, and should've been run out of town 20yrs ago after the Kings Dock debacle, then again after trying to please his loan masters with Kirkby, then again after multiple farcical AGM lies like Samuelson and FSF..... and ofcourse the cancellation of AGMs, because shareholders had long since gotten wise to the endless lies exposed over time. Moshiri is not without blame.... he kept feeding the lunatic his money and expected a different outcome. He's almost certainly only a frontman for USM and we are a sideshow in his/their world. Money is no object to them, easy come easy go..... it may yet be our undoing regards stadium or other debts. However, Kenwright has been running the show and has not uttered a word of dissent about the owner. So he is either complicit, a useless chairman or both... take your pick, but rest assured he's majorly responsible for this mess and all of the previous well documented ones of the last 20+yrs.

The continous defence based only on Moyes' relative achievements had no substance at the time..... it certainly has none now.

In a nutshell. Good post

 

[ForeverBlue92]

how do we know ? Look where we are in the league despite the money poured in by our owner, look at our commercial performance very ordinary to say the least, look at our FFP position, look at all our failed managers, look at all our players their wages transfer fee's and what the majority have been sold for. Have you heard Denise complain ? Have you heard her have any misgivings at all ? Mate Denise is the CEO she is a very big cog in our boardroom structure, or she should be, all she does is sugar coat everything about the club and tell us how well it's being run and how well were doing, gone through an ordeal prove it.. Put up or shut up, sick and tired of these groundless accusations aimed at our fans with absolutely no proof, which came about funnily enough when the protests started to take root.

I think only the big 6 and maybe WHU (thanks to a tax free stadium handed to them by Bradys Tory mates) have higher revenues than us so as CEO she takes credit there.

Most of our problems stem from poor recruitment / governance which falls on Kenwright/Walsh/Brands.

 

[Harryflashman]

I think only the big 6 and maybe WHU (thanks to a tax free stadium handed to them by Bradys Tory mates) have higher revenues than us so as CEO she takes credit there.

Most of our problems stem from poor recruitment / governance which falls on Kenwright/Walsh/Brands.

From that last list the Latest revenue figures not just West Ham but the mighty Leicester and Leeds above us I think . Newcastle will also certainly be above us next time and it’s worth noting that those behind us are behind us by a relatively small amount whilst the big 6 are £200-300m ahead whilst West Ham are about £75m ahead .

I wouldn’t get too excited about her performance as we’re consistently slipping down that table and should the worst happen this season then the figures will be catastrophic.

 

[NathDogg]

Groundhog Day again. Same old, same old …. No-one bored to death of it yet?

That’s what they want us to feel mate - apathy and to just give up, nothing to see here, move along.

Not gonna happen - they ended themselves, they just don’t want to admit it and hope we forgive and forget.

We’ve already got a zombie owner and board of directors running a zombie club - the fans had been zombies for way too long, we can’t go back to that now.

Support the team; sack the board.

 

[Dixieslaces]

Thats the thing though how do fans know if she did a good job at EITC / isnt doing a good job as CEO? Just because EITC does good work and we've been shabite on the pitch (for longer than she has been CEO for btw) doesn't mean she's the factor behind both.

She's a good egg mate who's gone through quite a bit of an ordeal in recent weeks I think it's harsh to lump her in with Kenwright & Co.

Jesus Wept mate!!
Are you on some weird trip here?

You are defo a WUM of the poorest level!

 

[Tom Hughes]

From that last list the Latest revenue figures not just West Ham but the mighty Leicester and Leeds above us I think . Newcastle will also certainly be above us next time and it’s worth noting that those behind us are behind us by a relatively small amount whilst the big 6 are £200-300m ahead whilst West Ham are about £75m ahead .

I wouldn’t get too excited about her performance as we’re consistently slipping down that table and should the worst happen this season then the figures will be catastrophic.

Precisely.... after Moshiri came with all the various USM sponsorships etc, we did climb the income table a bit from our all-time low.... but we're still miles behind the big boys and only fractions above most of the traditional smaller yoyo clubs. If the stadium finances add up (and don't cripple us forever) we'll hopefully climb further.... but we've been well and truly left behind by all of our traditional peer group.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

From that last list the Latest revenue figures not just West Ham but the mighty Leicester and Leeds above us I think . Newcastle will also certainly be above us next time and it’s worth noting that those behind us are behind us by a relatively small amount whilst the big 6 are £200-300m ahead whilst West Ham are about £75m ahead .

I wouldn’t get too excited about her performance as we’re consistently slipping down that table and should the worst happen this season then the figures will be catastrophic.

Leicester have won the league, FA Cup and finished 5th twice in recent years, Newcastle are doped up with Saudi sponsers, WHU have a 60k stadium for free.

Our problem has been losing USMs sponsers which accounted for about £15 millions a season and poor league finishes (on top of GP sadly no longer being fit for purpose).

We'll never attract top sponsers unless we're playing in the Champions League which is a pipe dream.

BMD will no doubt help us (and we need to get high earning dross of the wage bill also).

But Denise overall seems a good Blue who's tried her best. I wont comment on the headlock allegations but if its true she was assaulted we need to not lump her in with Kenwrights cronies.

 

[Harryflashman]

Precisely.... after Moshiri came with all the various USM sponsorships etc, we did climb the income table a bit from our all-time low.... but we're still miles behind the big boys and only fractions above most of the traditional smaller yoyo clubs. If the stadium finances add up (and don't cripple us forever) we'll hopefully climb further.... but we've been well and truly left behind by all of our traditional peer group.

Exactly we’re in a hole No usm , we’ll be losing stake , lack of prize money because of league placing , less tv coverage , commercial revenue dire , no cup runs etc

If we stay up The ground is the potential game changer but surviving on selling off academy players and not replacing them isn’t a strategy that’s sustainable.

 

[Harryflashman]

Leicester have won the league, FA Cup and finished 5th twice in recent years, Newcastle are doped up with Saudi sponsers, WHU have a 60k stadium for free.

Our problem has been losing USMs sponsers which accounted for about £15 millions a season and poor league finishes (on top of GP sadly no longer being fit for purpose).

We'll never attract top sponsers unless we're playing in the Champions League which is a pipe dream.

BMD will no doubt help us (and we need to get high earning dross of the wage bill also).

But Denise a good Blue who's tried her best. I wont comment on the headlock allegations but if its true she was assaulted we need to not lump her in with Kenwrights cronies.

So she got sponsorship on the back of a shadow owner , other clubs have provided revenue by success and an ambitious stadium deal . Quick question what’s she achieved , what positives have we seen from the CEO . What’s improved at the club that you’d attribute to her ? communication, sponsorship , commercial revenue, performance?

I agree on BMD but what’s her involvement on that ?

 

[ForeverBlue92]

So she got sponsorship on the back of a shadow owner , other clubs have provided revenue by success and an ambitious stadium deal . Quick question what’s she achieved , what positives have we seen from the CEO . What’s improved at the club that you’d attribute to her ? communication, sponsorship , commercial revenue, performance?

I agree on BMD but what’s her involvement on that ?

Record shirt sponsership deal and tbf she along with Chong have been heavily involved with BMD according to the owner/media.

I agree we need to improve but I think thats difficult when we are getting it wrong on the field / other clubs are getting leg ups via gulf state ownership / Tory gifted stadiums.

In an ideal world - Kenwright / Sharp to go and be replaced with 2 proper businessmen. I have a huge amount of respect for Sir Farhad but without Usmanov I fear he may need to sell to someone who can push us forward (not Yanks).

 

[NathDogg]

Record shirt sponsership deal and tbf she along with Chong have been heavily involved with BMD according to the owner/media.

I agree we need to improve but I think thats difficult when we are getting it wrong on the field / other clubs are getting leg ups via gulf state ownership / Tory gifted stadiums.

In an ideal world - Kenwright / Sharp to go and be replaced with 2 proper businessmen. I have a huge amount of respect for Sir Farhad but without Usmanov I fear he may need to sell to someone who can push us forward (not Yanks).

Mate - it’s them all gone or none of them.

They’ve made their beds, I can’t believe any blues want any of them hanging around and festering at the club after all this.

The lack of decent job offers for our Denise speaks volumes mate.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Mate - it’s them all gone or none of them.

They’ve made their beds, I can’t believe any blues want any of them hanging around and festering at the club after all this.

The lack of decent job offers for our Denise speaks volumes mate.

I think at some stage bridges have to be mended mate for the good of the club. Looking at tings from a rational perspective mistakes have been made from both sides - the fan that head locked DBB was out of order likewise the board shouldn't have weaponised the incident and turned it into a media storm.

For me - DBB and Ingles welcomed back into the Everton Family.

Kenwright & Sharp - moved on and replaced with professionals.

 

[Bob Elstone]

Leicester have won the league, FA Cup and finished 5th twice in recent years, Newcastle are doped up with Saudi sponsers, WHU have a 60k stadium for free.

Our problem has been losing USMs sponsers which accounted for about £15 millions a season and poor league finishes (on top of GP sadly no longer being fit for purpose).

We'll never attract top sponsers unless we're playing in the Champions League which is a pipe dream.

BMD will no doubt help us (and we need to get high earning dross of the wage bill also).

But Denise overall seems a good Blue who's tried her best. I wont comment on the headlock allegations but if its true she was assaulted we need to not lump her in with Kenwrights cronies.

Thanks for the insights bill.