The Friedkin Group - Dan & Ryan Friedkin

[Neiler]

Just imagine an Everton with a semi competent commercial department.

It almost scares me.

Roma made 239 million last year mate, up from 179 mill the year before, that’s without PL TV/prize money or a new ground.

Villa and WHU income has to be our next target and we could and maybe should over take them, in a couple of years time we should be making £250 mill a year.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Oh, please let that be a crystal maze style challenge room where you get locked in if your not out in 90 seconds...

You get locked in and Colin Chong farts through a little hole in the wall as punishment.

 

[brieverton]

If/when this takeover happens, what are people's opinions on them getting rid of Dyche and bringing someone new in?

I feel like at this point it wouldn't be a great idea as we have just about steadied things after a few years of turbulence. I'm no massive Dyche aficionado by the way, just concerned that starting again from scratch could be detrimental.

I think we can expect and we need wholesale changes at board and executive level and those should follow swiftly as soon as the formalities are completed.

It would be a bad move to sack Dyche and something that wouldn't inspire confidence in their ability to oversee the football side of things, as I see it. Dyche has had to operate under circumstances that no Everton manager has ever had to contend with and he has come out the other side with our PL status intact and his reputation surely enhanced.

I'd llike to hear Friedkin say that one of their priorities is to support Dyche to improve the squad and our league position. Give him that opportunity and see how it goes. If he can't grasp that opportunity, and he would deserve some leeway, then he goes anyway. Football is football.

Thelwell position is probably the more precarious of the two in the short-term. I don't think the Friedkins will interfere with the football side, but I do think they will put a clear framework in place as to how they want the player recruitment side to work and what they expect from it. Thelwell will have to deliver signings that fit that model. I don't think he'll be under pressure short term but he'll be dealing with the Friedkins more than Dyche.

 

[ToffeeTim]

You’d think a certain amount of due diligence would be done before actually making a bid.

The club still haven’t confirmed it have they

Almost certainly it will have

The deal is very far progressed to get to this point. But it's not final till its final.

 

[davek]

Give over Dave.
Most billionaires if not all are right leaning.
No Bernie Sanders fan was ever going to stump up and buy the club.
And less of the yank spiv devil stuff,
Usually your argumentative nature is light hearted (windmills etc) but this is a good bit darker.

In what way is it darker? He's a spiv. Moshiri was a spiv. That's me being consistent. I can smell these people.

The same Arabs that chop up journos who pull them up on their Human Rights?

Great bit of stereotyping.

Not for me mate, you know my consistent take, I want the club to wash its own face, like an Arsenal or Spurs as opposed to being drip fed by a Moshiri type - we’ve almost been destroyed by it.

This isn't that though is it really? This is what it says on the tin: an entity coming in to restructure the debt and force the club to pay it off over a long time and they have the stadium as collateral. Yippee, great that we can wash our own faces with that I suppose?

Devil and monster too! Does he have horns and cloven feet?

Let me know when Tom Hanks makes a rival bid and I’ll back his bid instead!

The devil comes in many forms, they say...

Know many Socialist Arabs Dave ?

I'm not particularly bothered about having socialists as football club owners. Ild just prefer to have no Republican supporting, anti-environmentalist right winger owning my club, 'is all'.

Davek never ever ever changes

Could have swore I saw this 16 years ago on here

I was right 16 years ago, and I was right 8 years ago...remember then...when you were kissing Moshiri's ass. THAT'S how clued up you are Damo.

As I said last night: I mentored you on here and you've spit in my face as a thank you...

My favorite Dave argument against the friedkin takeover is that we'll have no funds and our best players will be sold to maintain the flagship of roma haha was he in a coma when we were unable to spend on transfers and had to sell our better players the last couple of years under moshiri and even before with kenwright?

So carrying on doing that is a great result for us from Friedkin's lot taking ownership. How lucky are we to have these yanks then eh? Phew, it could have been so much worse, eh?

 

[micknick]

Almost certainly it will have

The deal is very far progressed to get to this point. But it's not final till its final.

The biggest thing on their side is that they’re running a club already that pays people and doesn’t seem to have any fraud or legal action against them.

 

[sd_1992]

If/when this takeover happens, what are people's opinions on them getting rid of Dyche and bringing someone new in?

I feel like at this point it wouldn't be a great idea as we have just about steadied things after a few years of turbulence. I'm no massive Dyche aficionado by the way, just concerned that starting again from scratch could be detrimental.

The owners will have a vision for the way the club should play.

If they get in early enough to get in players then I think there is a fair enough argument for getting shut of him (what is the point in bringing in players who don’t suit a manager and what is the point in bringing in players that a short term manager wants).

If there isn’t to be any major transfers then the argument will be that he should stay until other players can be brought in January etc.

 

[Neiler]

This isn't that though is it really? This is what it says on the tin: an entity coming in to restructure the debt and force the club to pay it off over a long time and they have the stadium as collateral. Yippee, great that we can wash our own faces with that I suppose?

Not sure what you think this is mate.

This isn't new debt mate. They are paying our most immediate debt and getting better terms for the club on the remainder, interest payments as they stand are north of 5 mill a month at the club to existing lenders. Money saved supports the business. The current situation is the stadium is collateral now and at real risk of going out of the ownership of the club, without these guys sorting MSP, MSP month to month have the option of taking up ownership of the stadium.

Not sure i see the point you are making on bad choice here or choosing an alternative.

 

[dockroad]

As far as I can see ,the Red Echo haven't published anything about Friedkin being granted exclusivity . Seems odd ?

 

[McKindrick Blue]

That's a Harry Potter spell

Hopefully one that makes Moshiri disapperate pronto!

 

[davek]

Not sure what you think this is mate.

This isn't new debt mate. They are paying our most immediate debt and getting better terms for the club on the remainder, interest payments as they stand are north of 5 mill a month at the club to existing lenders. Money saved supports the business. The current situation is the stadium is collateral now and at real risk of going out of the ownership of the club, without these guys sorting MSP, MSP month to month have the option of taking up ownership of the stadium.

Not sure i see the point you are making on bad choice here or choosing an alternative.

The point made is a simple one: the biggest issue for them will be debt and they won't be coming in here to wipe it out for us without taking ownership of that stadium. How is that the stadium staying in our hands?...unless you're conflating TGF with EFC?

Every statement I've read from commentators looking on is that the stadium is the attraction for TFG. I have no reason to doubt that.

 

[Sean Ashley]

In what way is it darker? He's a spiv. Moshiri was a spiv. That's me being consistent. I can smell these people.

Great bit of stereotyping.

This isn't that though is it really? This is what it says on the tin: an entity coming in to restructure the debt and force the club to pay it off over a long time and they have the stadium as collateral. Yippee, great that we can wash our own faces with that I suppose?

The devil comes in many forms, they say...

I'm not particularly bothered about having socialists as football club owners. Ild just prefer to have no Republican supporting, anti-environmentalist right winger owning my club, 'is all'.

I was right 16 years ago, and I was right 8 years ago...remember then...when you were kissing Moshiri's ass. THAT'S how clued up you are Damo.

As I said last night: I mentored you on here and you've spit in my face as a thank you...


So carrying on doing that is a great result for us from Friedkin's lot taking ownership. How lucky are we to have these yanks then eh? Phew, it could have been so much worse, eh?

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Love the off season me

 

[StHelensBlue]

If/when this takeover happens, what are people's opinions on them getting rid of Dyche and bringing someone new in?

I feel like at this point it wouldn't be a great idea as we have just about steadied things after a few years of turbulence. I'm no massive Dyche aficionado by the way, just concerned that starting again from scratch could be detrimental.

I think Dyche deserves to be the man in charge next season. If we're to win trophies and get into Europe, then Dyche isn't the man. However, to help keep us in the league, and create somekind of stability for the short-term, then he's the man for the job.

 

[McKindrick Blue]

The point made is a simple one: the biggest issue for them will be debt and they won't be coming in here to wipe it out for us without taking ownership of that stadium. How is that the stadium staying in our hands?...unless you're conflating TGF with EFC?

Every statement I've read from commentators looking on is that the stadium is the attraction for TFG. I have no reason to doubt that.

Of course the stadium is an attraction to prospective new owners.

What was the attraction at Roma Dave?

 

[CielosGrises]

Doubt they would upset the apple cart and sack Dyche this summmer - I'm keen that they don't and we have an orderly transition.

A good outcome is that we keep our better players (Branthwaite, DCL, Pickford) and add to the squad a bit. Dyche then gets a it of continuity, stability and we see where we are at christmas.