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peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
We can only dream of mediocrity……
steven
Player Valuation: £35m
Obviously the expectations of everyone is nowhere near where they used to be in the 80’s. But it’s been going dramatically down since moyes left.
Under Moyes the expectation came that anything other than European qualification/being the best of the rest was a disappointment.
Rolled on into Martinez years when expectation was sky high. And yes I wouldn’t have him back and his interviews were awful and he couldn’t defend…but he had us in two cup semi finals the year he was sacked yet expectation was for much more.
Roll on through the managers and even under Ancelotti a Europa qualification would have been a huge success.
Now we are looking at Lampard and some people think it isn’t his fault when we are 18th in the prem - arguably in a season where expectations would have seen 15/14th and safety would be seen as a success. I’m still baffled as to why he hasn’t been given the boot - he’s being saved by the board being under more of the pressure , ultimately I think it’ll be to the detriment of the club that we kept him on this long.
Under Moyes the expectation came that anything other than European qualification/being the best of the rest was a disappointment.
Rolled on into Martinez years when expectation was sky high. And yes I wouldn’t have him back and his interviews were awful and he couldn’t defend…but he had us in two cup semi finals the year he was sacked yet expectation was for much more.
Roll on through the managers and even under Ancelotti a Europa qualification would have been a huge success.
Now we are looking at Lampard and some people think it isn’t his fault when we are 18th in the prem - arguably in a season where expectations would have seen 15/14th and safety would be seen as a success. I’m still baffled as to why he hasn’t been given the boot - he’s being saved by the board being under more of the pressure , ultimately I think it’ll be to the detriment of the club that we kept him on this long.
We want Everton to do well so we cling onto the positives in the hope next time will be better. Last night was a classic Everton defeat to a 'big' team. Problem is, we are no longer good enough to use these fundamentals to beat 'lesser' teams.
This is one of the most beatable United teams of my lifetime and we go round patting ourselves in the back as if we just gave Fergie’s best a game.
We’ve spent the last few months embarrassingly getting outplayed, if not beaten by all the dross around us in the league but after one draw against a good team we allow ourselves to believe the corner is being turned.
We are unmitigated crap. Any decent result or performance is the exception rather than the rule. It’s the players getting themselves up for big games rather than them being inspired by our manager.
Everything about this club reeks of acceptance of mediocrity or worse, nothing more so than sticking with a(nother) clueless manager well beyond the time we should have booted him out.
We’ve spent the last few months embarrassingly getting outplayed, if not beaten by all the dross around us in the league but after one draw against a good team we allow ourselves to believe the corner is being turned.
We are unmitigated crap. Any decent result or performance is the exception rather than the rule. It’s the players getting themselves up for big games rather than them being inspired by our manager.
Everything about this club reeks of acceptance of mediocrity or worse, nothing more so than sticking with a(nother) clueless manager well beyond the time we should have booted him out.
Gilbert..
Player Valuation: £50m
Thats been going on for about 5 years now. Even the one decent ish season under Ancelotti. We played pretty awful. And it was a weird season. All behind closed doors. Lets be honest hanging on for dear life in games.
Everton suck the life out of you. I cant honestly remember even a string of 2 or 3 games in the last 5 years where we've even played well. Its always scrappy mostly negative football.
Jamo Martinez
Player Valuation: £70m
I haven't heard anyone suggest everything's ok or everything's rosy again. So I don't know what you've been reading or who you've been talking to.
As it being slightly improved from the Brighton game, I really think you're underplaying the difference personally.
We were still very poor in parts as you say but hey, we're a very poor team at the moment. However, Play every game like we did against Brighton and we're getting relegated. Play every game like we did against Utd and we'll be nearer to mid table. That's a massive difference imo.
Is that a long way from where we'd like to be? Damn right it is. That's the reality.
I think they were onto something with them dvds. Cause at the time they were embarrassing but they look glorious right now to what we gave become.
samcdavies94
Player Valuation: £8m
Not really when you're as bad as we are. I'd say Moyes' Everton when we were 5th/6th is more capable of beating SAF's United than this iteration (one of the worst in the league) beating a side that will likely finish top 4.
Roachey11
Player Valuation: £5m
I didn't say anyone had said everything is rosy again - I meant that is the vibe that has been around over the course of a number of years when we put in a better performance or get a better result on the back of weeks of rubbish. Everything else I have alluded to, as referenced in the original post, is stuff I've seen from some fans today on Social Media and from the reaction of some sat around me last night. I'm not actually having a pop at anyone who wants to be more positive, just find it unrealistic personally.
everton1953
Player Valuation: £40m
What absolute garbage. Take time off and look at the league table.
TimHowardsBeardJuice
Player Valuation: £35m
I don’t think moral victories are a thing. You are what your place in the table says you are.
Having said that, I said “I don’t sack Frank off this game” after Friday. Not because of the effort although that matters. Because he set us up in a system that worked against City and worked here, and I believe if we played it all season we’d stay up and likely comfortably. I’d rather not bring in some other anti/football merchant like Dyche if Frank can get something out of this side.
Having said that, I said “I don’t sack Frank off this game” after Friday. Not because of the effort although that matters. Because he set us up in a system that worked against City and worked here, and I believe if we played it all season we’d stay up and likely comfortably. I’d rather not bring in some other anti/football merchant like Dyche if Frank can get something out of this side.
Dymak
Player Valuation: £40m
A similar thing happens regarding transfers, we were so starved of them at one point that people would rave when we signed anyone. Take a look back at when we were signing Klassen et al, blues thought they were in heaven when it was actually one of the worst transfer windows we ever had.
Also, look at the signing of McNeil. Fair enough, there were loads questioning the signing before it happened, but once we signed him everyone tried their best to convince themselves that there was some sort of wisdom to his signing when there clearly wasn’t any.
Also, look at the signing of McNeil. Fair enough, there were loads questioning the signing before it happened, but once we signed him everyone tried their best to convince themselves that there was some sort of wisdom to his signing when there clearly wasn’t any.
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