The return of David Moyes

[TrailerTrash]

It feels like that Spiderman meme, where there is always 5/6 managers circling the bottom 8 pointing at each other to see who will get the job.

They are all the same, no different, same old ideas.

In the same position every 6-18 months because they are bottom dwellers.

David Moyes isnt relevant no more, he shouldnt be anywhere near our club - even without the stuff he came out with after he left. It's Dyche to Moyes, and I doubt he will bring any new ideas to the team to make a massive difference. Hes talking that he would accept 6 months and that he doesnt want a relegation fight, why on earth does he continually flirt with us, makes my blood boil tbh.

Am bored, Sam, Rafael, Dyche, Moyes, always the same, theres no difference.

What I would give for new ideas and something different.

Moshiris years have put us back decades, and maybe thats why Moyes is back in contention, but it's not the right decision imo.

Dunno, Moyes had us top 8 in 9 of his 11 seasons.

Only twice were we bottom half, and we weren't exactly swimming in cash.

 

[Ralphie Boy]

We have had too managers here on long contracts and with their sacking fees and their entourage it has to have cost us circa £50 mill plus the wasted players they brought in.

Whilst Moyes is not ideal he could be contracted for 6 months incentivised either a further year plus one so that it is easier for us to let him go.

 

[Harryflashman]

Moyes followed that season by finishing 6/7th, Dyche followed last season by going dramatically backwards to one of the worst sides I’ve watched.

Yeah absolutely he did a lot better , he also ended his time there with 4 wins in 19 with a squad significantly better than ours .

I struggle to understand why West Ham fans hated him when he won their first trophy since Adam was a lad but the fact they do feels illustrative.

 

[Igrok]

Illusion of the safe past should not apply…this water flown and flushed

 

[Bedfordblue]

 

[neil999]

BTW palace did this with Hodgson, so other teams do it

 

[gonetomorrow]

Never go back.

 

[Ferguson1878]

Wish it was like the good old days when you could poach another clubs manager through the season

 

[Gilbert..]

Very cheese on toast with pickles and relish right now.
No idea if good or bad in terms of staying up.
Transfer window is just as crucial probably.

 

[Azza]

Not at all, but to paint Moyes as a manager who has only ever done good things is disingenuous. He was brought in to help Sunderland in similar circumstances and took them down. He flopped hard at Sociedad. Even his time here wasn’t all positive.

Last time we were in a similar boat we hired Dyche while one of our relegation rivals from that period hired Emery. Palace hired Glasner when they were in the muck. Universally positive moves? No, but each made a fundamental change in approach and implemented something to build on. We are - again - panicking and going for the old/British/PL experience option.

This 100 times over. If the likes Brentford or Villa or Brighton were in the position we are in right now would they be looking to bring in the likes of Moyes? No they wouldn't.

They would get someone like Toppmöller or Bo Henriksen or Claudio Giráldez and say bring your methods and tactical ability to the Premier League something other teams won't know about or have faced before. Here are a couple of signings, away you go, if you just scrape through it's not a problem because our technical sporting directorate have plans in place for you in the summer to help this succeeded long term.

Our DoF has less than 6 months left on his contract. Where is the planning there for him, when he's supposed to be the one making the long term plan?

Give Moyes 6 months and what happens in the summer? June - better start looking for managers, July - Oh our preferred manager who was under contract has just joined someone else, August - here you go Gary O'Neil have 3 years.

But then we also need to sign about 8 players in the summer when we potentially won't have a manager or DoF in for a period of time?!

 

[trueblue84]

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Moyes is better than dyche in every way. I get he's not exciting, but let's not elevate dyche to anything more than football's pot washer. He said himself, he would've been nowhere near the Everton job if we weren't in such a mess.

 

[Everton1654]

Moyes has been working as an expert for UEFA so hopefully has identified some good players who can improve the team who currently play in the Europa/Conference League.

 

[moyeslovechild]

I am not happy with Moyes coming back although I will admit that he is definitely a lot better Manager than Dyche. I just want to get past this hiring someone short term to try and stay up never ending cycle malarkey and especially someone through sentimentality because of the past. He may well know the club but it was a long time ago now. Football has changed, the club have changed, the fans have changed. Not even certain he can keep us up tbh although again, i am very certain that Dyche wouldn't have this season. His head had completely gone.

I do get why they might do it and will of course get behind him fully but i just hope this decision doesn't come back to haunt us.

For me mate it's not a question of him knowing the club. Rather if you look at what he did in his last job at West Ham, he's the best option available for our position.

It would be great to get an Iraola equivalent or someone from abroad but I'm not sure we can be taking that risk atm. We have new owners but we still have many of the same issues that makes it a very difficult job.

Everyone has their own opinions but I just think how Moyes did at his last job is surely the most relevant thing.

 

[The Littlest Yobo]

Really hoping that it’s just the 6 months that’s reported. He can scratch that Everton itch he’s had since he left United and we can stay up and we can shake hands and go our separate ways. We need a total reboot and a fresh start with a new DoF and new, modern manager in the summer with hopefully some cash to spend. We need to break this doom loop of baggage etc. and need a complete shift from past thinking. I think Moyes will keep us up, though. He’s too proud to be the fella who relegates us in the last year of Goodison. I’ll at least give him that, he knows what the club means to people. And, as limited as he is, he’s 10x the manager that that self serving fraud we’ve just managed to fumigate out the building. Still won’t be singing his name, like, the massive snide. But good luck to him anyway.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Yeah absolutely he did a lot better , he also ended his time there with 4 wins in 19 with a squad significantly better than ours .

I struggle to understand why West Ham fans hated him when he won their first trophy since Adam was a lad but the fact they do feels illustrative.

Because they were playing garbage and he wasn't getting results, while spending 100m or so on transfers.

I get the sentiment of first trophy but it's not a get out of jail free card like We'd have definitely let him stay for at least a year and a half more but Kenwright's spirit still lingers.