The return of David Moyes

[JimmyJeffers]

 

[windymiller]

Let’s have a short term plan first, stay in the premier league.

When do we stop with the short term plans? It's been years and years of short term plans.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Mmmm

 

[Neiler]

2.5 year contract!

Jungle Boogie!

 

[marnie]

I’ve made a list of pros and cons to weigh this up.

Pros:
Knows the club
has likely watched us a fair bit so will know the squad.
Does not eat worms

Cons:
Very boring
Face like a walnut
Nutsack hangs round his knees.

So he is a Rantallion.

 

[windymiller]

We don’t have to keep him until the end of his contract.

Indeed, it may well have been discussed that he’s only there for 6 months and he wants the pay-off.

It’s exactly the deal we had with Allardyce.

Look, I understand he’s not the dream appointment. But we were never going to get our man in a hurry mid-season.

Given that, I can live with this marriage of convenience. Sometimes pragmatism is the right choice.

We can't just keep paying multiple managers gigantic seven figure salaries. Eventually we have to be free of this seemingly neverending cycle of short term appointments.

 

[jceverton]

Funny enough they do.

Different ways, different levels.

Arsenal brought Arteta back, he played for them.
Liverpool brought Daglish back. (Levels eh, sacked him after reaching two cup finals and winning the League cup).
Chelsea brought back Mourinho.
Man Utd brought back Solskjaer.
West Ham brought back, erm, Moyes.

That's just a little list off the top of my head.

The most successful one was Carlo with Real Madrid but generally it ends in tears. Players coming back as manager's don't count though as that's not really coming back.

 

[windymiller]

Newcastle brought back Shearer
Newcastle brought back Keegan

Probably others as well

Does it ever go well?

 

[Tramps_mate]

I think you are a fool if you don't agree that Moyes is our best and only option currently!!

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Does he need to apologise for calling us fans a disgrace or was he spot on? @chicoazul ?

 

[DanB90]

Having read the Athletic piece from today, that seems to be the Friedkins' view of things: looking for somebody to pick us up out of the dirt, solidify things so we're not trying to stave off relegation every year, and then go back to the kicking-on part of the plan from there, after a year or two.

Can't say that I won't be disappointed if that's the plan, as I had hoped that they would be more aggressive in the summer, and I still think they wanted to do that before Dyche forced their hand. But it sounds like they are in fact willing to give Moyes a year or two to get things fully under control. Don't love it, but I at least understand where they're coming from. Plus Moyes has a reputation for picking out players without breaking the bank, which they have to be looking at when needing to replace half a squad in basically one window or so.

you got a link to this athletic piece mate?

 

[windymiller]

Technically none-ce as he also saw out his first contract as well.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

So he is a Rantallion.

I was going to include that but thought it was too niche.
He’s the king of the rantallions.

 

[HalfTimeSayers]

When do we stop with the short term plans? It's been years and years of short term plans.

Probably when we aren’t the second worst team in the division based on recent performances.

 

[dixiesdisciple]

Woeful take.

Most cost effective move would be bringing in a manager now that, in theory, could take us forward for 5+ years. Any decent manager could keep us up this year.

‘In theory’.. there’s your problem right away! If it was that easy everyone would have managers for decades!
Who’s to say Moyes can’t do that? Strong argument to say we’d be in a better place in 5 years if we let him stay that long (I don’t want him to).
And to counter your theory, most of us thought Dyche would have taken us on again this year to comfortable mid table.. but he didn’t, we regressed badly.
Not everything is black and white and sometimes you gotta play the hand your given.
I dare say we’ll both be happy if Moyes stabilises us and provides a platform for better things