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The small world of Eddie Howe

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blueblue said:
I think he is a good manager, I think he has done well at Bournemouth, I think he would do well at Everton.

I am not convinced however that he has the fire in his belly to drive any team he manages to achieve more than they should be capable of and that I think is what the great managers do.
I think in many respects it would be a safe, solid appointment but certainly not spectacular, but it certainly will be expensive and I think that, allied to the fact he may not want to leave his club mid season would make this a difficult deal to do.
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So what you basically saying there is, he is an average manager with no ambition, because if Everton come calling and you have to make a choice between us and Bournemouth and he is undecided.
That's all I need to know about the guy

I wouldn't go anywhere near him as he stinks of mediocrity
 
Stephenlloyd said:
He’s not the first manger to take a team up a few divisions. It’s a lot more uncommon these days, because of the high turnover of mangers. As soon as one is doing well in the lower division, he’s snapped up be a bigger team.

That a side, he’s had 5 years and plenty of money and still can’t get Bournemouth any higher. Yet in that time Southampton, Burnley, Wolves, West Ham have all finished top 7. Bournemouth finished top half once, 9th a few years ago. And still can’t stop them leaking goals.

Average manger, who shouldn’t even been on the list of potential new mangers for our club.
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One time it could be a typo but not 4 times. Do you actually know how to spell manager?
 
kiss the crest said:
So what you basically saying there is, he is an average manager with no ambition, because if Everton come calling and you have to make a choice between us and Bournemouth and he is undecided.
That's all I need to know about the guy

I wouldn't go anywhere near him as he stinks of mediocrity
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I think that may be the problem.... but then I said the same about Brendan Rogers.

We can only gauge from what we can see on television, we really know very little about managers like Howe or the circumstances they work in.
 
If you read the Bournemouth forums, their supporters are saying they want rid of him, he's lost his passion, taken them as far as they can go, sick of his negative tactics, doesn't adapt, his transfers suck, if he stays they will be relegated etc etc

Not really a glowing review from their own supporters.
 

Cels said:
There are no guarantees with whoever we bring in.
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So you acknowledge that:

- There are no trophy-winning managers that want to manage Everton.
- There are no guarantees with any manager.

But you scoff at the idea of bringing in a young manager who has built an excellent reputation elsewhere. To me, It's much like signing young players (where there is also no guarantee).

Most fans love signing young players. Moise Kean, for example, who hasn't done what we need him to do before (in the sense that he's got no Prem experience or scored goals regularly at the highest level) - BUT we like what he has done before and he's an educated risk.

Same thing with any manager. Howe has done excellent at a level we'd consider beneath us. Nobody would doubt he's done a good job there, but he's not done what we'd need him to do for us - namely taking a team from outside the top six, into the top six.

Of course, as you say there are managers that have done that in the past with other teams that have managed us before that we simply wouldn't entertain - like Hughes, Allardyce, O'Leary, Moyes, Ranieri, Redknapp, O'Neill, Pardew, Martinez, Koeman or Burley.

Now if there's managers who have done precisely the job we require, that none of us fancy. And there's managers that we'd love, that wouldn't touch us with a barge pole. We're going to have to make some concessions aren't we?
 
4737carlin said:
Style of play means nothing, only points matter
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Now I understand your penchant for dull crap managers a bit more. Yes if only points matter then your % football types are probably a safer bet.

I’d say the majority of the fan base would say style matters a lot though. I watched Ireland under Staunton, trappatoni and O’Neill. The only enjoyment came from the rare goal or the final whistle for a rare win or qualification for a tournament. The actual games and the “football” though? An absolute chore to watch at best....a horror show of % football at its worst. Years lost of something I used to enjoy a lot just because of the type of coach they chose.

Yours is a valid opinion, but its only that. For me the sport is a hell of a lot more than just points on the table.

you have to ask yourself ultimately what the hell do you want the club to do long term? Because supporting Moyes or that last corrupt oaf of a manager or Dyche seems like you just want stability without a thought for how the hell we might actually start to become challengers again. We’ve had it your way for the vast majority of the seasons since we last won a trophy and achieved nothing. Even if you are a % football fan I think it makes more sense to continue to risk a bit more with managers that “might” succeed in a way that gives us a chance of achieving something and staying at that level rather than going back to managers we can be pretty damn sure will achieve nothing more than averageness on the whole with a slight chance of a one off cup win/streaky season.

dull % football type managers are nothing but comfort blankets for fans that can’t handle bad seasons/bad runs without panicking. We certainly are never getting back to any kind of glory period with that crap

rant over. On topic, Eddie Howe doesn’t seem much cop and the expansive football they played at times seems to only come in one streak a season now.but I wouldn’t be a hypocrite and write him off if we signed him up because he does seem to favour attacking football and there’s a chance he would fit a DOF model well. Lots of evidence of his time in the league would suggest though that he is unlikely to do anything special with us.

but a point to put out there. As we are still turning over the crap in our squad and recovering from koeman then maybe the next guy just needs to be a relatively successful stepping stone playing the way the current DOF and his recruitment requires and doesn’t need to be the one. Just get us ticking again and pave the way for Mr Foreignname Jogabonita. Would Howe be at least able to do that? I’d say maybe even though he wouldn’t be my choice.
 
Keiran said:
Boruc (joined in the Championship)
Francis (joined in League One)
Cook (joined in League One)
Daniels (joined in League One)
Smith (joined in the Championship)
Surman (joined in the Championship)
Fraser (joined in League One)
Stanislas (joined in the Championship)
King (joined in the Championship)
Wilson (joined in the Championship)

Daniels, Francis, Cook, Smith, Fraser, Wilson and King have all been regular starters for Bournemouth throughout their time in the Prem and still this season.

At least 7 of the aforementioned players comprise their team. And the other regular starters are all young players, most of whom were signed from lower league clubs such as Ramsdale, Stacey, Cook, Kelly, Mepham, Billing and Brooks.

They've done wonders with Harry Wilson on loan from Liverpool too.

Youngest squad in the league, young manager, attractive Football. Signs exclusively young players, mostly from the lower leagues. Getting raked over the coles because he hasn't got Championship players into Europe yet.

Madness.
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Why have the won 1 in 10 this season and lost their last 4 if he Is that good .
 
We either need to get a manager who is highly successful (highly unlikely) or someone that will provide some stability for the next three years. In the latter at least we'll be a decent side not great but doing nicely. A couple of top 7 finishes would be nice but we just need to get back to basics for now. Then after the three years we should have worked out who we are and what we want to become and so, therefore, find the right manager who fits our philosophy. That person might not even be a success (in terms of winning trophies) but he should be getting us in and around CL places then we can get rid if not working and find a manager that would take us another step up. We're looking for the next Poch when we just need a manager that fits our philosophy.
 

Keiran said:
Boruc (joined in the Championship)
Francis (joined in League One)
Cook (joined in League One)
Daniels (joined in League One)
Smith (joined in the Championship)
Surman (joined in the Championship)
Fraser (joined in League One)
Stanislas (joined in the Championship)
King (joined in the Championship)
Wilson (joined in the Championship)

Daniels, Francis, Cook, Smith, Fraser, Wilson and King have all been regular starters for Bournemouth throughout their time in the Prem and still this season.

At least 7 of the aforementioned players comprise their team. And the other regular starters are all young players, most of whom were signed from lower league clubs such as Ramsdale, Stacey, Cook, Kelly, Mepham, Billing and Brooks.

They've done wonders with Harry Wilson on loan from Liverpool too.

Youngest squad in the league, young manager, attractive Football. Signs exclusively young players, mostly from the lower leagues. Getting raked over the coles because he hasn't got Championship players into Europe yet.

Madness.
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Thats an amazing record. Howe has done well with the limited cards he has been dealt with.
 

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