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The summer 2013 Everton transfer rumourZ thread

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njligernj said:
I don't dispute Stones can cover at RB but apparently he's ultimately more likely to end up at CB.

We don't need a keeper this year we just want one. A great way for clubs in our financial position to screw themselves is to decide to buy a certain position one year and force it through even when the available players aren't good enough/are too expensive. If we can get a young promising GK that's great but we don't *need* it like we need other spots.
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we've no sub keeper at the minute do we?
 
Dutch Toffee said:
If they would be our only signings we probably better give up. Couldn't even be bothered to watch this space anymore. As squad player, with also 3 quality signings coming in, I'd be wel satisfied.
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I just don't see the need for Simpson, if Hibbert is fit, plus we have Stones. We should also be looking for a goalkeeper to take over from Howard not just to warm the bench and put no pressure on him.

I'd only be happy with Alcaraz out of that list.
 

FTY said:
Simpson
Turnbull
Alcaraz

They'll be ok signings, won't cost us anything and won't be bad squad players.
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quasi modo said:
I just don't see the need for Simpson, if Hibbert is fit, plus we have Stones. We should also be looking for a goalkeeper to take over from Howard not just to warm the bench and put no pressure on him.

I'd only be happy with Alcaraz out of that list.
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Actually agree on the goalkeeper. But seeing it's not our number 1 priority by any means we can postpone the signing of a rival to his position with at least another year.
 
tim cahill said:
You're assuming that Heitinga and Fellaini are definitely going, and haven't included Barkley as a CM. I think 3 would be fine if everyone stayed. Obviously if we lost anyone they'd need to be replaced though.
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Martinez might think differently but I wouldn't count Barkley as a CM at the moment. If any of our current central midfielders got injured we couldn't put Ross in there and expect him to protect the back four or dictate play. At a stretch he could be a wildcard behind the striker, but I think that more experienced players would get the nod first. I imagine him breaking into the team on the right hand side and moving more centrally as his game develops.
 

Brennan said:
But he didn't say 'Just 2-3 players'....

I don't buy that we need six players either.

Howard is fine in goal, imo. He had a good return after his injury.

We only need one CM assuming Fellaini goes, i believe Barkley will see plenty of game time and that would leave us with Barkley/Osman/Gibson/New player.

If anything i'd be more inclined to get two wide players in and give Mirallas free roam behind whoever we have playing up front. Let him relax on the defensive duties and just do what he does best.
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If Howard has any problems we're left with Mason Springthorpe, so we need to have experienced cover.

If Fellaini and Heitinga go we will have lost four players used by Moyes in central midfield last year (Felli, Neville, Heitinga and Hitzlsperger). Even if Fer joined and we promoted Barkley, if Gibson got injured we would have no senior players available for the holding role.

I'd like to see Mirallas used more centrally because it gives him more opportunities to try and score. It would probably give us better balance to have someone disciplined on the right if Coleman is going to be bombing past them most of the time anyway.

We're likely to be losing Mucha, Neville, Heitinga, Hitzlsperger and Fellaini from what is already one of the smallest squads in the league. We need to replace those 5 players for starters before Martinez can think about the "competition for places" that he has mentioned.
 
njligernj said:
I don't dispute Stones can cover at RB but apparently he's ultimately more likely to end up at CB.

We don't need a keeper this year we just want one. A great way for clubs in our financial position to screw themselves is to decide to buy a certain position one year and force it through even when the available players aren't good enough/are too expensive. If we can get a young promising GK that's great but we don't *need* it like we need other spots.

What we *need* IMO is (excluding young players we might buy for 500k here and there and just focusing on players who would be likely first 11 or subs):

1-2 CBs. Just one if Duffy is ready. 2-3 new if he wants to play three at the back (obviously just one would be a potential first 11 type and then more squad types for the rest ... even a Hitz type signing for squad depth here would be acceptable in a pinch ... not my dream scenario obviously but being realistic).

One deep lying playmaker type (maybe a DM too but he could be more backup level).

RM. Mirallas needs to be AMC.

Striker or two.

His "two or three" might just be keeping expectations low and not meant to be taken literally.

Three is the absolute bare minimum (CB, midfielder and striker).

Two leaves us exposed somewhere.

I think four (CB, CM, RM, Striker) is the minimum if the board wants to seriously back RM.
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I can't see Stones getting near CB in the forseeable future. If we had a run of injuries I'd think that Hibbert would be moved to CB to partner Duffy before we would consider the youngster.

We a need a Mucha, Westerveld or Hahnemann type just in case. There are plenty available for free at the moment.

If Heitinga is staying then it's ideal to have Heitinga-Jagielka-Distin. We should really cash in though because it seems like he wants to move on anyway. It would make sense to bring in a Gardner or Senderos type eg. Alcaraz as cover and to stick with four at the back for the moment.

Fer seems like a positive signing.

If Fer plays alongside Gibson and Mirallas is moved into the hole then we need to find a new position for Osman. I'd put him back out on the right. It's not ideal but it would be an old head to help Coleman along. We could gradually introduce Barkley in that position too. And, if Donovan opts to join us in January, it would give us a third option.

Anichebe has shown promise and Jelavic is a streaky player by the looks of it. We can't really rely on either for goals though. Maybe Chelsea will take what they paid for Ba? And maybe a fellow Spaniard will have more luck chasing Negredo? We need to put the majority of our transfer kitty into someone who virtually guarantees goals though.

I suppose it partly depends whether Oviedo, Naismith, Barkley, Duffy, Vellios and Gueye become fully-fledged members of the squad or whether they will remain on the peripheries in case of an emergency.
 
billycopper said:
I can't see Stones getting near CB in the forseeable future. If we had a run of injuries I'd think that Hibbert would be moved to CB to partner Duffy before we would consider the youngster.

We a need a Mucha, Westerveld or Hahnemann type just in case. There are plenty available for free at the moment.

If Heitinga is staying then it's ideal to have Heitinga-Jagielka-Distin. We should really cash in though because it seems like he wants to move on anyway. It would make sense to bring in a Gardner or Senderos type eg. Alcaraz as cover and to stick with four at the back for the moment.

Fer seems like a positive signing.

If Fer plays alongside Gibson and Mirallas is moved into the hole then we need to find a new position for Osman. I'd put him back out on the right. It's not ideal but it would be an old head to help Coleman along. We could gradually introduce Barkley in that position too. And, if Donovan opts to join us in January, it would give us a third option.

Anichebe has shown promise and Jelavic is a streaky player by the looks of it. We can't really rely on either for goals though. Maybe Chelsea will take what they paid for Ba? And maybe a fellow Spaniard will have more luck chasing Negredo? We need to put the majority of our transfer kitty into someone who virtually guarantees goals though.

I suppose it partly depends whether Oviedo, Naismith, Barkley, Duffy, Vellios and Gueye become fully-fledged members of the squad or whether they will remain on the peripheries in case of an emergency.
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:( the future doesnt look exactly bright. What happens if we get injuries??
 
billycopper said:
I can't see Stones getting near CB in the forseeable future. If we had a run of injuries I'd think that Hibbert would be moved to CB to partner Duffy before we would consider the youngster.

We a need a Mucha, Westerveld or Hahnemann type just in case. There are plenty available for free at the moment.

If Heitinga is staying then it's ideal to have Heitinga-Jagielka-Distin. We should really cash in though because it seems like he wants to move on anyway. It would make sense to bring in a Gardner or Senderos type eg. Alcaraz as cover and to stick with four at the back for the moment.

Fer seems like a positive signing.

If Fer plays alongside Gibson and Mirallas is moved into the hole then we need to find a new position for Osman. I'd put him back out on the right. It's not ideal but it would be an old head to help Coleman along. We could gradually introduce Barkley in that position too. And, if Donovan opts to join us in January, it would give us a third option.

Anichebe has shown promise and Jelavic is a streaky player by the looks of it. We can't really rely on either for goals though. Maybe Chelsea will take what they paid for Ba? And maybe a fellow Spaniard will have more luck chasing Negredo? We need to put the majority of our transfer kitty into someone who virtually guarantees goals though.

I suppose it partly depends whether Oviedo, Naismith, Barkley, Duffy, Vellios and Gueye become fully-fledged members of the squad or whether they will remain on the peripheries in case of an emergency.
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I don't mean to sound funny lad but are you smoking crack?

Just on the highlighted parts you apparently think its fine to have hibbert at cb ahead of stones, hes played their before he was a little bit gash and hes a midget, heitanga apparently if he stays is ideal to play for us, did you even see any games last year when the word gash fails to come close to how he played, he shouldn't be allowed near the pitch again even as a groundsman, and you seem to think the option to have Naismith and Gueye as fully fledged parts of the squad is an option... seriously wtf.

saved the best for last though... Osman on the ****ing right wing again, have you ever seen the lad play their ... he was possibly worse than even Naismith.... and that switch is supposed to help out coleman who in case you missed it is looking one of the best players we have atm, Help him with osman lol, more like leaving him out their to hang and doubling his workload

Just gobsmacked by your entire post as its worthy of a OMFG are you serious comment

Well if we lose distan, jags aand kev and pinnear with knocks next year

Howard
Coleman -Hibbert -Heitenga - Baines
Osman - Fer - Gibson - Gueye
Naismith
Big Vic

Champions league quality lids. Hibbo, heienga, Naismith and Gueye and Ozzy tearing up and down the park like bolts of lightning
 
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