Lapeno77
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Thought it was a lemon
This nurse Letby case
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I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest that you are not a trained mental health professional or psychologist?
Yes. Spot on. The sheer number is due to a serious flaw in the management culture.
Lucy Letby: Police urged to investigate hospital bosses for corporate manslaughter
Key prosecution witness in the trial of the serial killer nurse calls for inquiry into ‘grossly negligent’ executives
Congratulations - having been tempted in the past, it’s only now that I have given a post my first ‘middle finger’ reaction. Don’t think I’ve reported any more than a handful in nine or so years either, but here we are…
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
About time.
www.telegraph.co.uk
Law that forces killers to attend sentencing will be in King’s Speech
MPs express fury after it emerged that Lucy Letby was refusing to return to the dock for sentencing
www.telegraph.co.uk
Rita_Poon
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How will it be enforced?About time.
Law that forces killers to attend sentencing will be in King’s Speech
MPs express fury after it emerged that Lucy Letby was refusing to return to the dock for sentencing
Harshly I hope, oops just realised I am conversing with Mr Anti-police (until they need them of course)
Jamo Martinez
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No it doesn't.
it will give them a platform to be disruptive, shout unpleasant things at the families of the deceased and undermine the process etc. Obviously someone who thought this has had few dealings with people such as this. Imagine them scum who shot Rhys Jones sitting on their hands, gobs shut taking their medicine? No I don't either.
I'd rather the proceedings were recorded and the recording played on a 24 hour loop continuously in their cell for their entire sentence
Jamo Martinez
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True. However, how does forcing a defendant to appear in court to hear the verdict protect the public?
you're correct, and these beasts live by different values to us, they couldn't give a flying one and it wont have the effect we think it should
Rita_Poon
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The irony of this. it seems letby has managed to hide in plain sight, she was a nurse after all, she was there to help.... right.
GoldenToffee
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I just find it mad that there has to be actual legislation changed and that it is a lengthy process just to ensure convicted murderers stand in the dock for their sentencing. Does this happen in the US, Canada or Australia?
Why on earth can't she just be hauled into court? The UK is such a ridiculously soft touch as a country, utterly bizarre.
Is this 10 stone woman going to overpower and injure court officials or police officers who attempt to take her into the court? Ridiculous - one final insult to the families.
Why on earth can't she just be hauled into court? The UK is such a ridiculously soft touch as a country, utterly bizarre.
Is this 10 stone woman going to overpower and injure court officials or police officers who attempt to take her into the court? Ridiculous - one final insult to the families.
She could be, but in law there is currently an exemption that allows a trial to continue if a) they've waived their right to attend, and b) they have representation.
Even if the law is changed to ensure they're forced, it brings in the possibility of them disturbing the sentencing through words or actions.
What if they kick off? What if they start spouting comments, in an attempt to bring about a contempt charge? In that case, the judge will just have them gone.
As I said previously, the only consequence would be an additional time on their sentence, but if you're facing life (either 10+ plus to whole life term)...
... what's a few days or weeks added onto your sentence going to do? It's easy for us to say, 'They must be forced to,' but the reality isn't that simple.