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TIM HOWARD THOUGH

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are people, trying to be serious blaming Howard for Barkley and McCarthy acting like Laurel and Hardy!!

The depths some people sink to..


It sailed over his head, Dougie. Literally the only thing he had to do all game went straight at him and he didn't make it. Very poor defensively, but goalkeepers are supposed to be the last line of defence when all else fails in front of him.
 
He was partly to blame with the previous cross and as caught flat footed with the corner a bit.

It looks like it's going out though, but how far back shall we take it to blame Garbutt for letting the cross come on?

This is the trouble for me, everytime a goal is conceded it's blamed on Howard. No one else gets the finger pointed at them on here it's always his fault. There's a few players that should have done better with that but Howards the default scapegoat for most.
 
It sailed over his head, Dougie. Literally the only thing he had to do all game went straight at him and he didn't make it. Very poor defensively, but goalkeepers are supposed to be the last line of defence when all else fails in front of him.

So we forget the mistakes by Garbuut leading up to it? And the slapstick efforts of Barkley and McCarthy?

Come on Prev be fair, it's a combination of poor player when we looked scared shiteless, some people would want Howard to take the blame if McCarthy farted in the showers.
 
So we forget the mistakes by Garbuut leading up to it? And the slapstick efforts of Barkley and McCarthy?

Come on Prev be fair, it's a combination of poor player when we looked scared shiteless, some people would want Howard to take the blame if McCarthy farted in the showers.


I don't think it's unfair. Coleman and Garbutt were poor defensively tonight, but even the best defences aren't going to give their keeper the whole night off, something will slip through. If he hadn't made quite a few blunders already this season, nobody would care but we're playing games where Howard has one or two big saves to make and he's not making any of them.
 

There goal was a well worked corner, with great blocking on Barkley, however Howard should have at least got a hand on it
 
I don't think it's unfair. Coleman and Garbutt were poor defensively tonight, but even the best defences aren't going to give their keeper the whole night off, something will slip through. If he hadn't made quite a few blunders already this season, nobody would care but we're playing games where Howard has one or two big saves to make and he's not making any of them.

No keepers keeping that out given the quality of the shoot and the fact he's expecting McCarthy to be on the post not charging out to cover someone else's mistake.

Happens time and again on here, blame Howard. As you well know ther's more going on than simply Howard know stopping that shoot pal.
 
Don't blame him for the goal, great finish. Problem ( and it's as clear as day ) is NO ONE trusts him in defence. He comes rushing out when he doesn't need to, stands on his line when he should be coming out. Basically his decision making has gone to shyt. He's causing a lot of issues at the back because of this but hey, can't blame him because the manager picks him.
 
No keepers keeping that out given the quality of the shoot and the fact he's expecting McCarthy to be on the post not charging out to cover someone else's mistake.

Happens time and again on here, blame Howard. As you well know ther's more going on than simply Howard know stopping that shoot pal.


I'm not quite sure what you were trying to say here, I'm assuming autocorrect? But if you're saying there's more to our problems than Howard, I agree. But I think Robles earned a shot at a first team place and Howard hasn't done much to change that opinion since his return.
 

I'm not quite sure what you were trying to say here, I'm assuming autocorrect? But if you're saying there's more to our problems than Howard, I agree. But I think Robles earned a shot at a first team place and Howard hasn't done much to change that opinion since his return.
Think he means theres an awful lot that happens before the ball reaches Howards goal.
 
Don't blame him for the goal, great finish. Problem ( and it's as clear as day ) is NO ONE trusts him in defence. He comes rushing out when he doesn't need to, stands on his line when he should be coming out. Basically his decision making has gone to shyt. He's causing a lot of issues at the back because of this but hey, can't blame him because the manager picks him.

This multiplied by gazillions.
 
Howard puts the defence on edge, they have no confidence in him, he didn't have much to do and he didn't do it very
well. He was even wasting time with his distribution near the end when we were pressing for a third goal. Martinez
should do the right thing and put Robles back in goal, but we know he won't.
 
Think he means theres an awful lot that happens before the ball reaches Howards goal.


Right, but he's not going to get the night off. Most goal chances come from some defensive lapse or other in football. We had a few in the first 30 minutes, but only one that led to a direct shot on goal and he couldn't save it. He literally had one thing to do.
 

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