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Today’s Football 2019/20 Season

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TheBigIguana said:
Right but like Messi doesn't play in the area of the pitch I see a as occupying. Which is why I think lumping him in with Aguero is weird.
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Because messi is an exceptional player. To borrow a basketball analogy let's use Durant and LeBron as an example both have played most of there careers as SF and PF both are exceptionally talented scorers and offensive players but LeBron is a better player maker different players but still the same positions
 
MarcelsGoat said:
Football is forever changing.

I mean in Messis earlier days I called him a winger and he did play wider a bit early on his career.

I mean take a 4-3-3, lets take Liverpool as an example.

Do you consider Mane, Firminho and Salah Strikers?

Its hard to label them as such, they are certainly forwards, but does Firminho play as a 9 or a 10? I think its difficult to pinpoint Firminho, the other 2 are wide forwards, but in this scenario do you say Liverpool do not play with a Striker?
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I think you could make the case for any of the three being a striker. But I also think if you're doing it with Salah and Mane that still doesn't mean that Messi is. It's hard but I really just meant #9 when I said the initial thing.
 

TheBigIguana said:
I don't think so but you're already convinced I know nothing
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I'm not convinced that you know nothing but does it not say something when most other people on here, who've watched and played football, see it differently?

TheBigIguana said:
I think you could make the case for any of the three being a striker. But I also think if you're doing it with Salah and Mane that still doesn't mean that Messi is. It's hard but I really just meant #9 when I said the initial thing.
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Neither of those three are strikers with Fiminho being the closest. In reality, he's a false number nine.
 
PhilM said:
I'm not convinced that you know nothing but does it not say something when most other people on here, who've watched and played football, see it differently?


Neither of those three are strikers with Fiminho being the closest. In reality, he's a false number nine.
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You can also make that case. Their system is weird to define. Robertson and Trent are fullbacks but they really don't do what a lot of other fullbacks are tasked with. You can't really not call them fullbacks though.
 

Nymzee said:
Please bold who you feel he’s better than right now so I can have a laugh.
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Is it really that outlandish to suggest someone who is scoring a goal a game even when you take out the games in the bad Austrian league might be better than players who aren't doing that?
 
@TheBigIguana take richarlison and DCL for example you would be hard pressed to find anyone that says we don't favour a two man forward/ striker formation. But they are very different in roles and attributes but fundamentally they are still strikers in the role of 442
 

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