Today’s Football 2020/21 Season

[deipnosophist]

Fraud of a manager that alpine klopp, the pissflap

lol lol lol

 

[number4.]

VAR mate.

Honestly, every manager should instruct their player to fall over in the box to make VAR review it. What can you lose? You're not going to be punished afterwards (only happened once), won't get booked (they barely book diving now) and it's give the officials in Stockley Park something to ponder.

I've always been a backer of VAR and still thinks it has a roll in the game, but at the moment it feels like the lads (and lady) in Stockley park are on commission for every goal they can disallow.

Honestly as soon as any goal is scored now, the mindset seems to be "How can we get this goal cancelled", literally searching for a problem.

Two things to solve VAR....

1) Offside - Draw one line from the defenders extremity, if it is still unclear at that stage give the benefit of doubt to the attacker.
2) VAR's only other job should be to refer the referee to the screen to review. This would reduce the amount of interventions over time as they would want to avoid the breakdown of the game every 10 mins

 

[kenada_blue]

I've always been a backer of VAR and still thinks it has a roll in the game, but at the moment it feels like the lads (and lady) in Stockley park are on commission for every goal they can disallow.

Honestly as soon as any goal is scored now, the mindset seems to be "How can we get this goal cancelled", literally searching for a problem.

Two things to solve VAR....

1) Offside - Draw one line from the defenders extremity, if it is still unclear at that stage give the benefit of doubt to the attacker.
2) VAR's only other job should be to refer the referee to the screen to review. This would reduce the amount of interventions over time as they would want to avoid the breakdown of the game every 10 mins

It's the same across Europe though. There's a protocol they're all following.

I've always said...let the ref decide to use it or not. Not the other way round.

 

[number4.]

It's the same across Europe though. There's a protocol they're all following.

I've always said...let the ref decide to use it or not. Not the other way round.

Watching Champions league & the odd la liga / bundesliga game, no other league lets VAR dictate the game the way the PL does, it's much more subtle and gives the benefit of the doubt to the on field decision

 

[Death]

Portsmouth have won more than South Ham? Woof.

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

They should know him by now....

 

[Bullens Rd]

pmsl that's funny, doing his hard man imagine now good though talking about Disney movies. lol

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Is that the Man Utd that are 4-0 up at half-time? We can only hope that their poor home form continues.

Just one of freak results last night mate, sending off in the first 2 minutes, everything Man U hit going in and Sunday league defending by Southampton.

 

[kenada_blue]

Watching Champions league & the odd la liga / bundesliga game, no other league lets VAR dictate the game the way the PL does, it's much more subtle and gives the benefit of the doubt to the on field decision

Which is counteracted by some horrific diving that generally get giving as penalties.

 

[Ring master]

lol

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

If it's a close/unclear offside call then give benefit of the doubt to the attacker

If it's a close/unclear penalty call then give the benefit of the doubt to the defender

That's my personal view anyway

 

[hallamblue]

lol

He's in my lad's fantasy team lol, he managed to score -6 which is an achievement.

 

[catcherintherye]

I've always been a backer of VAR and still thinks it has a roll in the game, but at the moment it feels like the lads (and lady) in Stockley park are on commission for every goal they can disallow.

Honestly as soon as any goal is scored now, the mindset seems to be "How can we get this goal cancelled", literally searching for a problem.

Two things to solve VAR....

1) Offside - Draw one line from the defenders extremity, if it is still unclear at that stage give the benefit of doubt to the attacker.
2) VAR's only other job should be to refer the referee to the screen to review. This would reduce the amount of interventions over time as they would want to avoid the breakdown of the game every 10 mins

With the cavaet being that I haven't seen last nights incidents, I have to say VAR may still be rubbish, but it's miles better than last season, where it was an utter joke.

To me it's made some big calls correctly. The Mane offside against us for one, without VAR we get cheated out of that game.

There was probably a window where if they did the right things, it could work. That hasn't happened and I don't think it can be saved now. These things include;
1) Showing all incidents live on screens as they do in other sports
2) Having the referee "miked" up to the VAR official so we can see what they are asking them (ah la rugby)
3) Probably having some sort of "challenge" system, whereby a teams gets challenge per game or whatever. If the refs decision is sustained it's lost.
4) Tolerance for the officials brought in. Outside of offside which is right v wrong (and lets not forget, we have also had some dubious offsides goals not given, but I have avoided complaining as it's a black or white) in terms of broader decisions it should not be about VAR making a decision, but overturning a clear mistake.

I have banged on about these things from the start. Very few people wanted to know. Now other supoorters fans jump on the bandwagon and I'm of the view it's done and it's here now.

As a final aside, if they were to remove it, as it's essentially proven to have corrupted football, all results from the seasons it's been used would also have to be scrapped, as a bear minimum.

 

[trueblue84]

With the cavaet being that I haven't seen last nights incidents, I have to say VAR may still be rubbish, but it's miles better than last season, where it was an utter joke.

To me it's made some big calls correctly. The Mane offside against us for one, without VAR we get cheated out of that game.

There was probably a window where if they did the right things, it could work. That hasn't happened and I don't think it can be saved now. These things include;
1) Showing all incidents live on screens as they do in other sports
2) Having the referee "miked" up to the VAR official so we can see what they are asking them (ah la rugby)
3) Probably having some sort of "challenge" system, whereby a teams gets challenge per game or whatever. If the refs decision is sustained it's lost.
4) Tolerance for the officials brought in. Outside of offside which is right v wrong (and lets not forget, we have also had some dubious offsides goals not given, but I have avoided complaining as it's a black or white) in terms of broader decisions it should not be about VAR making a decision, but overturning a clear mistake.

I have banged on about these things from the start. Very few people wanted to know. Now other supoorters fans jump on the bandwagon and I'm of the view it's done and it's here now.

As a final aside, if they were to remove it, as it's essentially proven to have corrupted football, all results from the seasons it's been used would also have to be scrapped, as a bear minimum.

It also correctly ruled that van dijk was offside when he collided with Pickford. Had VAR not been in use, the ref would've overruled the linesman and buckled under pressure from their players to give a penalty. VAR has, on the whole, removed these injustices.

 

[Curtis]

Yeah getting obliterated twice is a humiliating debacle worthy of sacking. But mitigating factors have to contemplated as well. Southampton have been ravaged by extensive injuries, I believe up to 9 players. Also lost a green player on his debut due to a callous challenge in the first minutes. Then they were eventually down to 9 players , a thrashing was unavoidable . Still pathetic but it didn't happen in vacuum.