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If you count Charity Shields, we've won more than Villa.
If you count Villa's Division 2 & Division 3 title wins, then they've won more.

Don't think you should count Division 3 though, given we've never been as low as that Division and thus have never had an opportunity to win it (nor would we want to).


I can't resist this......:)


You can add two Inter Toto Cups to Villa's CV.

That is game, set and match right there, boys.....;)

Oop the Villa.......Come on me babbies......:celebrate:
 
@Whistlin' Dixie seriously, have a look back at what I've wrote and what you have wrote. You have insulted a 14 year old boy for supporting his team.

I'm sorry, but you are acting very RAWKish in your comments. All I've said is they have won more trophies and we both have great histories. You've come bouncing back with " Have they ever averaged over 50k " and " They've been relegated more " .

Replace them statements with " But we've won it five times " and you get it now, RAWK behaviour to try and be the best and not accept anyone else's view or opinion.

As I've said, you are disqualified from the argument for bringing Libpewl football culture into the discussion.

Anyway, it's a thread for Tom Cleverley not for you to insult kids.
 
We have won 2 more league titles than Villa, Villa have won 1 European Cup and 2 more FA Cups, plus 5 League Cups.

IMO they have won more than us.

But they are clearly not a bigger club.
 

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No offence but this is getting a bit tedious. Can you not just drop it?

Back on topic - The more I think about it the happier I am with this signing and on a free it seems to be a no brainer to me.

I don't agree with people saying he could block the progress of some of our youngsters. If they're good enough then they'll force their way in - which is how it should be.

Not if I'm virtually accused of being a kopite, or accused of losing an argument because I happen to mention them as relevant as part of the case. And not when it's from someone who barely disguises his thoughts that villa ARE a bigger club than us........Moomin doesn't need to say it - just make a laughable case for it.

Personally, I'm not arsed about Cleverley. I'll allow him 5 games to slot in so he should be the dog's dangling bits by game #5 . Anything more & Martinez should go. Martinez chased him, - he can sink or swim by his decison imo.


@Whistlin' Dixie seriously, have a look back at what I've wrote and what you have wrote. You have insulted a 14 year old boy for supporting his team.

I'm sorry, but you are acting very RAWKish in your comments. All I've said is they have won more trophies and we both have great histories. You've come bouncing back with " Have they ever averaged over 50k " and " They've been relegated more " .

Replace them statements with " But we've won it five times " and you get it now, RAWK behaviour to try and be the best and not accept anyone else's view or opinion.

As I've said, you are disqualified from the argument for bringing Libpewl football culture into the discussion.

Anyway, it's a thread for Tom Cleverley not for you to insult kids.

Just who the **** are YOU to tell ME who's disqualified? I've NOTHING against the kid - but I WILL take umbrage to you & your ramblings.

Replace: 'fair play to the kid' and 'they've won more trophies' with 'villa ARE a bigger club than Everton, you kopite' and that's you summed up.
 

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We have won 2 more league titles than Villa, Villa have won 1 European Cup and 2 more FA Cups, plus 5 League Cups.

IMO they have won more than us.

But they are clearly not a bigger club.

We've won 8 more Charity Shields than they have.
 
The definitive answer based on each club's official website:

Everton trophies: http://www.evertonfc.com/content/history/honours-and-records

9 Division One titles
5 FA Cups
1 European Cup Winners Cup
9 Charity Shields (1 shared but it's included as a win)
1 Division Two league title
3 FA Youth Cups
1 FA Academy League winners

Total: 29.

Aston Villa trophies: http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/HistoryHonours

1 European Cup
1 European Super Cup
1 Intertoto Cup
7 Division One titles
2 Division Two titles
1 Division Three title
7 FA Cups
5 League Cups
1 Charity Shield
3 FA Youth Cups

Total: 29.

It's equal, only if you include their Division 3 title.
 

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