Tom Cleverley

[Toffeelover]

Poor Toffeelover has been ambushed by the Mississipi Riders and their looks to be only one winner In this mugging

Not true Mate, Me I like honesty and they are saying it is okay for RM to lie. In the face of this questionable stance it is best to let them continue with their illusion.

 

[RaleighBlue]

Not true Mate, Me I like honesty and they are saying it is okay for RM to lie. In the face of this questionable stance it is best to let them continue with their illusion.

You'd rather he say nothing? And simply repeat no comment every time he's asked a question? Or give his honest opinion, possibly causing problems both in the dressing room and with the FA regarding transfer rules?

Nah, I'm fine with him blowing smoke to the media. It would be stupid to do anything else.

 

[Toffeelover]

You'd rather he say nothing? And simply repeat no comment every time he's asked a question? Or give his honest opinion, possibly causing problems both in the dressing room and with the FA regarding transfer rules?

Nah, I'm fine with him blowing smoke to the media. It would be stupid to do anything else.

At the same time he is blowing smoke up the rear end of the fans. Oh I forgot you do not mind that. Fine that is your opinion and your choice just not mine.

 

[Boss_Blue]

he is blowing smoke up the rear end of the fans. Oh I forgot you do not mind that

I imagine it would be an interesting sensation like.

 

[RaleighBlue]

At the same time he is blowing smoke up the rear end of the fans. Oh I forgot you do not mind that. Fine that is your opinion and your choice just not mine.

Yes. I honestly, truthfully do not care what our manager says.

I want Everton to win as many points as possible. If blowing smoke to the media and fans helps that, fantastic.

I really don't understand what you're suggesting he do instead.

 

[Toffeelover]

I imagine it would be an interesting sensation like.

Haha Boss. I think I will not participate in that though! Free world, what ever turns one on!

 

[kenada_blue]

People who complete passes successfully are always welcome and stats tend to suggest he's good at doing that. Of course, stats like that can often mask a poor player creatively speaking, but my recollections of him early in his United career are that he can add some punch to an attack.

I honestly dont see him being deployed by Martinez in CM, and his words quoted there are instructive in that he says that Cleverley is the one who feels he's best back there. I'd see him in a position on the left and being used in the same way that Martinez used Jordi Gomez at Swansea/Wigan - getting him in between opposition lines. More a successor to Pienaar than Barry.

Im sure he did that at United when he came through. He was either out right or behind the striker. His link up play and one/two touch play had a zip and pace about it.

The problem is, he doesn't score and doesn't create much he just keep things ticking.

A budget James Milner you could say

 

[Toffeelover]

Yes. I honestly, truthfully do not care what our manager says.

I want Everton to win as many points as possible. If blowing smoke to the media and fans helps that, fantastic.

I really don't understand what you're suggesting he do instead.

Last word from me, he should be careful in his comments, not mention other players by name or inference, evade it. Similarly to say there are a group of players etc, etc, etc is not good. What will the players think? There are ways fo commenting with the press and he should know better.

That's it mate end of. You rabbit on to your heart's content.

 

[davek]

Im sure he did that at United when he came through. He was either out right or behind the striker. His link up play and one/two touch play had a zip and pace about it.

The problem is, he doesn't score and doesn't create much he just keep things ticking.

A budget James Milner you could say

A good way of putting it.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

The way @Toffeelover tries to shoehorn in his anti Martinez agenda is more predictable than David Cameron talking about the economy when the Tories came to power with every question he faces..

 

[Toffeelover]

The way @Toffeelover tries to shoehorn in his anti Martinez agenda is more predictable than David Cameron talking about the economy when the Tories came to power with every question he faces..

Oh boy, what woke you up/ Sahall we talk about Howard instead no doubt you would like that.

 

[Jamo Martinez]

From what I've understood about Hunter he covers all of Merseyside, much in the same way Jamie Jackson does for Manchester, etc.

Yeah. Just checked on the wonderful world of wiki and he's down as football correspondant based in Liverpool.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

Oh boy, what woke you up/ Sahall we talk about Howard instead no doubt you would like that.

Come on you love to turn every possible situation good or bad against Martinez.

It's clear you don't like him now. Did you last season?

Are you feeling let down after his triumphs past season? Or are you just insecure because you ended admiring him and singing his praises last season?

 

[Professor Toffee]

Let's get Cleverly in if Kenright continues with Martinez.
I'm on and it's on

 

[Toffeelover]

Come on you love to turn every possible situation good or bad against Martinez.

It's clear you don't like him now. Did you last season?

Are you feeling let down after his triumphs past season? Or are you just insecure because you ended admiring him and singing his praises last season?

Doogie let me be clear to you. I have always stated we would not be relegated for one. For 2 I have always said because of the results, tactics, selections this season I am not convinced that he is the right long term manager for Everton. I am not the only who has pointed out that his press conferences are not very good, so because I comment on the latest you come out and jump on me.

WE cannot all have the holier than thou feeling as you have, so why not now give me a rest, thank you.