He had both feet off the floor? I've seen straight reds given for them.
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Tackles that take the man out after the ball were always a great chance to 'get even' once upon a time. But I thought it was now classed as not being in control of your follow through - so fouls for me. (preferred it in old days tho!)
Also - I agree. Kanes' head and chest were blatantly offside when that ball was played. But wasnt even mentioned on MotD despite the freeze frame they did.
But nothing new there I suppose.
By god I'm blue
Banned at own request
Don't worry, we have Peinaar to come in on the left side! Hmmm 
sportbillyblue
Player Valuation: £8m
never like to see one of our own getting crocked and my sympathies rest with Cleverly. He is not our best option in a wide, midfield role as reflected in yesterday's performance.
Really hurt to see that tackle, felt for Tom as he has been decent.
Was frankly disappointed in Dier and his snidey wrecking ball attitude, should've been off twice yesterday.
Was frankly disappointed in Dier and his snidey wrecking ball attitude, should've been off twice yesterday.
The tackle was reckless and he didn't have control of his follow through, which I thought meant a possible red in such cases. The so called experts contradict themselves on this from week to week.
This, really. Thought it was the knee at first, he twisted really awkwardly going down.
It was a heroic and strong tackle, sure, but extremely dangerous. Not to be compared to the Rose/Coleman one, this one was at much higher speed, catching Clev's leg in a scissor grip and following through with the whole body. The danger factor and angle of tackle is frequently used to book people even though they were on the ball, this tackle was 60% ball and 40% man. Should've been off.
Totally agree mate. Gutted for the lad because he's started off really well but it just looks to me like Martinez is going to use him as a Jack of all trades and master of none. Never a winger in a million years, especially not on the left hand side.
thirdmantackle
Player Valuation: £35m
How was that not a red?
Coutinho got a red for falling on his arse
Coutinho got a red for falling on his arse
efcfanwirral
Player Valuation: £25m
Or Osman
Or even worse Naismith!
Only til Barry's position becomes untenable. He's Barry's long term replacement, but these first few games have shown him worthy of playing especially over people like Naismith if the wingers aren't fit. Resting seamus and Pennington having such a shocker is what led to Wednesday's bizarre positioning and it worked
Coutinho got a yellow.
Dier obviously took out his frustrations on being deemed "a bit crap" by us a few years ago and decided to break a few ankles.
Horrible snidey weird-mouthed bell.
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