Tom Cleverley

[RFUS]

One of the few players you could argue had a good game last night

Put it on a plate for Del at least three times and worked hard all evening

As usual, people overreacting

Classic scapegoating. He played some quality passes and was far from the worst player on the pitch.

He's an adequate squad player. We have much bigger problems really

 

[MikeH72]

One of the few players you could argue had a good game last night

Put it on a plate for Del at least three times and worked hard all evening

As usual, people overreacting

Mikey mate, he does literally nothing. Just because he plays it so safe that he doesn't technically do anything "wrong", doesn't excuse the fact that he contributes nothing positive. I can't remember him putting it on a plate for Del. We suffer when he plays because he is such a passenger and doesn't actually serve any purpose. Completing a load of 5 yard sideways passes doesn't qualify as a "good" game for me at home to Championship opposition.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Classic scapegoating. He played some quality passes and was far from the worst player on the pitch.

He's an adequate squad player. We have much bigger problems really

Agreed

It's getting beyond ridiculous now

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Mikey mate, he does literally nothing. Just because he plays it so safe that he doesn't technically do anything "wrong", doesn't excuse the fact that he contributes nothing positive. I can't remember him putting it on a plate for Del. We suffer when he plays because he is such a passenger and doesn't actually serve any purpose. Completing a load of 5 yard sideways passes doesn't qualify as a "good" game for me at home to Championship opposition.

@RFUS said mate, he played some very good passes

Go back and watch the ones he laid on for Del, especially the one Del then went onto squander by having a weak shot while Valencia was open in a better position

 

[Rudolf Hucker]

Classic scapegoating. He played some quality passes and was far from the worst player on the pitch.

He's an adequate squad player. We have much bigger problems really

First half last night he was playing in a 4 with 3 of them having a poor game & a lad up front not able to pull defenders about. How many times did he take scrappy ball & play quick passes in behind for Deulofeu, Coleman & Lennon?

Haters gonna hate.

 

[Roger Milla]

I'm a bit concerned that this individual could slow down the progress of Davies by being infront of him in the midfield pecking order

He won't

Are you sure about that, Mikey?

 

[Nil Satis Niasse Optimum]

I agree he wasn't our worst player - that was Barkley, again, by a country mile - but he's just nowhere near good enough to be starting games. Emergency backup at best. Davies has to play before him, and concerning to see Davies kept in reserves while Cleverley starts games in the first team.

 

[alwaysblue]

I thought he was one of our better players last night (not hard) and his passing was excellent. Set Coleman and Deulofeu away a few times. Anyone that watched that game couldn't really fault his performance. Yes he didn't do a job as well as Barry, but he was in a different position and isn't Gareth Barry.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Are you sure about that, Mikey?

Yes mate

Clev has shown he's good enough to play

The only way he'll slow down Davies will be if Davies isn't of a same level or better

At the moment, Clev is deservedly ahead of him in the pecking order

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

If Clev had come in and stanked the joint up, then you could argue he was holding Davies back because Davies has come in and done well

Clev came in and did well, hence he isn't holding Davies back. Owness is now on Davies to be better

 

[orly]

If Clev had come in and stanked the joint up, then you could argue he was holding Davies back because Davies has come in and done well

Clev came in and did well, hence he isn't holding Davies back. Owness is now on Davies to be better

Except he didn't.

As anyone who has a basic understanding of football could see last night. Cracking non-tackle for the second goal, too.

 

[Woolly Blue]

He's an adequate squad player

Clev has shown he's good enough to play

I don't disagree, but do you think he'll be happy to just be in the squad and get the odd game in cup matches or when injuries hit the first choice players ?

Under Martinez, if fit, he was pretty much guaranteed a place, under Koeman, he'll be on the bench. He came here for first team football so I can't see him sticking around if he's not getting it.

 

[Kev The Rat]

I don't disagree, but do you think he'll be happy to just be in the squad and get the odd game in cup matches or when injuries hit the first choice players ?

Under Martinez, if fit, he was pretty much guaranteed a place, under Koeman, he'll be on the bench. He came here for first team football so I can't see him sticking around if he's not getting it.

He's a fraud so yes I could see him hanging around

 

[AdamEFC]

He is average and if we ever want to get places we need to shift players like him out (he's not the only one like).

 

[Nil Satis Niasse Optimum]

He is average and if we ever want to get places we need to shift players like him out (he's not the only one like).

Yes. He is probably Aston Villa standard to be honest. Didn't understand why we signed him (oh wait, he was free, now I get it), but desperately want rid asap.