Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
Its sad you don"t.
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bluesb1970
Player Valuation: £20m
Who said I don’t? He’s not good enough currently and has shown no reason why he should be in the first 11. However, we now have a good coach that could, potentially, improve him. TD was invited into the England squad training as a teenager, so there must be something there. I’m not naive though and view him on current talent rather than being a blue.
Seanjd
Player Valuation: £30m
I recall him receiving the ball many times in central positions with space to run into or move it forward, but instead he looked for Baines. Alright, he made a few decent passes towards the end of the game, and he’s only young, but I still struggle to see what he will become. He’s not blessed with pace, he’s not physically powerful, he’s not particularly agile and his passing isn’t anything special. He’s alright for his age like, and I hope he proves me wrong cause seems like a sound lad, but I doubt it.
Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
See. Most of that post I agree with completely. It's the last sentence I don't get. Why judge him on his current talent when he's still only 20. He's still learning the game and we thankfully have a manager now who will hopefully help him develop rather than just throw him in the deep end to get on with it.
He isn't ready for that yet and nor should he be expected to be.
bluesb1970
Player Valuation: £20m
you can only judge him on his current talent! My original post was linked to yours about age. You’ve just said he’s not ready so you’re basically agreeing with me on every point. I’d love him to be better, but at the moment he’s not good enough.whether he will be or not is Yet to be seen...
everton1953
Player Valuation: £40m
He was excellent today, and made a great contribution when effort was needed against a very physical team.
Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
This is the post I was responding to.
WTF do you expect from somebody who's just turned 20 FFS. Of course the age issue is relevant when you're dealing with posts like this. I sometimes think people expect all players to be as good as Richarlison and Neves are 21, but they aren't.
The fact that some players that age get thrown in the deep end is usually down to bad managers or bad recruitment/injuries. It's not the players fault. It's not as if they can turn round to the manager and say, sorry boss I'm not ready yet.
That's fair enough and a miles better post than anything you usually get on here in response to a criticism of a player.
bluesb1970
Player Valuation: £20m
So you’re saying he’s not ready yet? You’re agreeing with me again!
He did more than ok today - one bad pass - he is faster than Snides , and a sign his confidence is coming back !
Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
I have never said he should be a regular starter. He isn't ready for that. He's played far too many games for somebody his age who's body is still developing and last season needed taking out of the firing line when he was clearly struggling.
My issue is with people who are writing him off when he's only 20 and still learning, just because he isn't good enough now. I don't know how clearer I can make my point.
zzr45
#MURDERINGSCUM
It’s a sign of weakness. Play nice passes ffs.
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