Tonight's internationals

[RFUS]

what a load of tosh this thead is!!!! ffs!

utter crap the lot of it!


england were crap and have been for ages!

anti everton! HAHA get osman in! get hibbert in! oh jags and rodwell are injured but get them in anyway! baines fooked his chance by hinting he wouldnt be happy away from home! so whos left?

get the dealer baxter in he should fit in well with there morals!

grow up people ffs! ooh no sorry you dont have too cuz it only happens to/in england!!

very very sad!

Where did you read/hear/see that?

Sky news? Back of the mail?


They took his quotes out of context, added a dose or seven of hyperbole, and then messed up his England chances. He actually came out afterwards saying he's been asked about the mummy's boy thing or something, and said yeah he gets homesick. Something really innocent, and not really in the footballing context, and they contorted it.

Why? Probably just because it makes a good read to be honest. Nothing cynical, just typical journalism. Fact is, Baines has been a responsible dad since he was a teen. He's a man, make no mistake, and to think for a second he'd not play well for England because he was missing his mummy is as ludicrous as it is unfoundedly insulting.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Where did you read/hear/see that?

Sky news? Back of the mail?


They took his quotes out of context, added a dose or seven of hyperbole, and then messed up his England chances. He actually came out afterwards saying he's been asked about the mummy's boy thing or something, and said yeah he gets homesick. Something really innocent, and not really in the footballing context, and they contorted it.

Why? Probably just because it makes a good read to be honest. Nothing cynical, just typical journalism. Fact is, Baines has been a responsible dad since he was a teen. He's a man, make no mistake, and to think for a second he'd not play well for England because he was missing his mummy is as ludicrous as it is unfoundedly insulting.

Has he been on Jeremy Kyle?

 

[fozzy]

Where did you read/hear/see that?

Sky news? Back of the mail?


They took his quotes out of context, added a dose or seven of hyperbole, and then messed up his England chances. He actually came out afterwards saying he's been asked about the mummy's boy thing or something,and said yeah he gets homesick. Something really innocent, and not really in the footballing context, and they contorted it.

Why? Probably just because it makes a good read to be honest. Nothing cynical, just typical journalism. Fact is, Baines has been a responsible dad since he was a teen. He's a man, make no mistake, and to think for a second he'd not play well for England because he was missing his mummy is as ludicrous as it is unfoundedly insulting.

same place as you mate hence me saying the word HINTING!

 

[chicoazul]

Well fans are blerts mate. Everyone has them. See Serbia for more details.

So, Serbia and England have them? Wow, that means its ok?

 

[Neiler]

I'd have to stand with immoral, as in;

deliberately violating accepted principles of right and wrong
without regard for morality; "he acted immorally when his own interests were at stake"

The entire set up (Well beyond players), and what seems the majority of the players consistently fall into the above description.

100% agree with this international football is just wrong its impossable to take seriously.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

So, Serbia and England have them? Wow, that means its ok?

Ok for these soon to be obese haggis eaters.

 

[RFUS]

same place as you mate hence me saying the word HINTING!

Aye mate, but just hinting that really isn't just cause for an England exile. It's unfair, and an all-too typical product of this country's media.

 

[chicoazul]

Ok for these soon to be obese haggis eaters.

Hooligans? Look at the joy on their wee faces man. They are just happy at beating England at Wembley and wanted to share that joy with the stadium.

They're guily of over exuberance at worst.

 

[fozzy]

but as you said your self he said he might get home sick! so as a manager would you honestly take him to a world cup? and if not then you cant pick the lad for any other games either!

 

[Pat's Van]

hee hee they look like they're having a fkn grin !!!

 

[neonleon]

Well, the word is being used here in the context of football. It's a trivial point, immoral loosely means optionally choosing to go against social morality. So assault, adultery are immoral. "But, but, but - they're not as immoral as genocide", but they're still, immoral.

Anyway, the point was, a collective will to win a football match is no doubt adversely impacted by the type of people in that England set up. Top to bottom.

When was the last time England had a good manager? Strange that.

Loving the Nietzschean turn of phrase. Do moral people play better football? I'm sure George Best failed to live the life of a saint. He could kick a ball well. Do moral teams regularly achieve better results than immoral teams?

Did Chelsea win the league because they were more moral than United. Are Everton immoral compared to Liverpool?

As far as a collective will to win, then I think that would depend on many things. hunger, desire, unity, discipline, understanding, morale - being more apparent than the impact of any socially imposed 'morality'.

As for the whole adultery thing, I couldn't care less about the lives of these idiots. People cheat on each other. Most of us have done the dirty on a partner/girlfriend/lover before. its life. The difference is media coverage. That has more impact than any transparent debate about the rights and wrongs of personal conduct.

 

[RFUS]

Ok for these soon to be obese haggis eaters.

If you're allowed to go that far back in time then it's getting a bit silly.

Present day, there's some real nutters out there. England fans, Serbian fans and so on. Doesn't matter so much their nationality, in my opinion, it's just a shame they're allowed to ruin the spectacle of football.

 

[chicoazul]

Loving the Nietzschean turn of phrase.

Listen mate, Ghost said lay off...

 

[Neiler]

Ok for these soon to be obese haggis eaters.

That was actually a Bay City Rollers gig.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Loving the Nietzschean turn of phrase. Do moral people play better football? I'm sure George Best failed to live the life of a saint. He could kick a ball well. Do moral teams regularly achieve better results than immoral teams?

Did Chelsea win the league because they were more moral than United. Are Everton immoral compared to Liverpool?

As far as a collective will to win, then I think that would depend on many things. hunger, desire, unity, discipline, understanding, morale - being more apparent than the impact of any socially imposed 'morality'.

As for the whole adultery thing, I couldn't care less about the lives of these idiots. People cheat on each other. Most of us have done the dirty on a partner/girlfriend/lover before. its life. The difference is media coverage. That has more impact than any transparent debate about the rights and wrongs of personal conduct.

Leeds United in the 70s.

I think there is a load of buddhist karma stuff going on here, bad things happen to bad people, and good things happen to good people - well let me tell you, if your nice to everyone, keep to the law, don't spit in church and all, your going to get the good things in life, just not in this life, oh yes, the afterlife will be amazing - be you and your choice of Katona, Ellison and Price, or all 3 if your up for it, soaping it up in the hot tub.

But until then it will be [Poor language removed], and you will need to bend over and take it like a good follower.

Whatever. Roll that spliff, chuck the porn on and get on the blower to Charlie the man.