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EdwardMoore
Player Valuation: £500k
Finished 5th in 2013-14..
RFUS
Anustart
Well if the board expect us to do that routinely, then they're being bells.
It's not all about money but when every other team in the league is outspending you, then you really can't demand to finish in a European place.
Ashtonian
Banned on request
yes.
if we cant spend much without selling then yes we would be.
we go and spend 20 million in a window considering the financial climate and we are managing our climate. We spend less than what most clubs have spent on a single player and then claim we arent a selling club, im sorry but that is just silly.
MACCA75
Player Valuation: £70m
True but I like a few goals from a striker myself. Might lash them in with all those through balls we play mind...
marty mcfly
Player Valuation: £40m
I think small not selling club is the word you are after. The rest of us just don't want to admit it.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I think you're reading of the situation is quite close to the mark. My own theory is, is that we're not going to sign Yarmalenko without selling Stones first. I don't think we'd have a spare 15 million in the budget lying around which could be spent on another winger. I also think, as you've said his pulling out of the race and linking another player in the Ukrainian league (Bernard) from left field is a bluff, to let them know we can go elsewhere. Liverpool did this in the Benteke race, and used Rondon and Bacca for example. I suspect the Ukrainian president is playing hardball and possibly moving the goalposts.
I don't think it's a coincidence that the media exposure to Stnes has died down at a similar time to the Yarmalenko stuff. My own feelings are, if it's before transfer deadline day, and Chelsea offer upwards of 40 million we would consider it. We'd probably see a mad dash for a centre half (I suspect we'll try for Van Dijk but end up with Evans) Yarmalenko and also think we may try a cheeky lowball bid for Austin.
If we don't get that bid from Chelsea then I suspect we will look at mainly getting loans in.
On the original post for @Ashtonian, I understand what he's saying about what benefit is it keeping Stones for 1 more year. The reality is though, especially at this late stage it would be a bad time to sell. We have already let our 2 senior centre halves go. I don't think selling Stones was ever an option (whereas it may have been for Barkley, McCarthy or even Lukaku had the right bid come in, and especially Mirallas).
If and it's a big if, we can sign Mori he will have a years experience in the premiership and probably be ready to start the following season. Likewise you would hope Browning and Galloway may be ready by next season to play a part at Centre back. I have a suspicion we have informally agreed to sign Evans like we did Cleverley last season. In all honesty in next summer would be a good time to then sell Stones (relative to this week) knowing we had back up in place.
I think Chelsea well test us twice more. One bid at 35 million with add ons, then on transfer deadline day. The fact the bid hasn't come in yet says to me Stones hasn't disrupted things as they'd have hoped.
Kenwright rightly or wrongly is under quite a bit of pressure currently. I think if we have another stunt like we saw with Arteta or Rooney, ie Stones being allowed to leave and the money not being spend on a replacement, a number 10 and another forward there would be a lot of anger. It makes sense for Kenwright to stick with him for another year if that's the case.
Ashtonian
Banned on request
I wonder. On the big IF scenario, if we Arteta'd Stones to chelsea? considering the current goings on, would that be the crushing blow to the board? I don't mean in a sense of opinion, i mean in the sense of 38 thousand everton fans turning up to the next home game with a lot of opinions and negativity?
If we spent the stones money at the same time then its neither here nor there, but i'm talking a lennon januazi loan then arteta'ing the money, even if we did plan to spend it in january it would be a long 4 months until we could do that.
If we spent the stones money at the same time then its neither here nor there, but i'm talking a lennon januazi loan then arteta'ing the money, even if we did plan to spend it in january it would be a long 4 months until we could do that.
flibbyflob
Player Valuation: £40m
Well least you can run unlike Gibson.
TheAlmightyFloater
Player Valuation: £30m
I think even I'd be able to hear the BOOOOOOs up here in Scotland.
Stephenlloyd
Player Valuation: £40m
Agree mateNothing against Leandro Rodriguez (I didn´t know him) but when I read Martinez quote; that he is looking to bring him to Everton I want to
Are the south american lads really the targets who he worked for since march? I can´t believe it...So disappointing!
2 South Americans we had never heard of a week ago
Mori might be ok even though Tim vickery doesn't think he's up to it
As for the striker I can imagine him being on the bench for a few games maybe getting 10mins here 10 mins there
Then getting shipped back to South America on loan in jan never to be seen again
I hope I'm wrong like
Martinez expecting us all to get excited about these signings
What's happened to his class number 10?
If we end up with these 2 and Lennon on deadline day
That will be depressing to say the least
chazzle_dazzle
Player Valuation: £35m
I doubt they would make it out of Goodison alive. Surely even then the pro-kenwright/board people couldnt turn a blind eye.
lets be honest, it wouldnt even be seen in January we have all heard that one before too.
Ron Burgundy
Player Valuation: £15m
"At the moment there is nothing to announce but he would fit into that outstanding young talent like Mason Holgate and is a player who we would love to see if we could get a positive outcome."
This quote from Martinez, to me, indicates that Rodriguez is NOT one of the 3 he sees improving us this season. Some may see it differently but that is what I get from that statement.
This quote from Martinez, to me, indicates that Rodriguez is NOT one of the 3 he sees improving us this season. Some may see it differently but that is what I get from that statement.
Ashtonian
Banned on request
to be honest no, small suggests we are a feeder for big teams which is what the club is purposly avoiding the best it can.
My point is simply not spending much and claiming not being a selling club is just silly, especially as if we sold we would spend. Like we have done for years.
We gain nothing by not spending any money whether we keep stones or not. Great we keep stones for another year, with a uruguan striker noone has heard of and potentially loaning a winger who is no better than what we have. That is really going forward!
Come may it makes no difference if we have not sold a certain player or signed whoever, its league places that matter. And at the end of the day Yarmelenko/bernard/payat/wijnaldum/shaquiri signings will make a difference over 38 games, big or small. So if we are staying still then no player with ambition will want to stay and tread water with us
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