Tyias Browning

[BigDunc'sFod]

Look, we haven't won a derby match in a really long time, and we really should have today. We didn't, and I'm not happy about it. In my opinion, the biggest reason we didn't win is that we didn't get a very good performance from our right back. So, yeah, I'm not happy about how Browning played today. That doesn't mean I think he's a bad player or a bad person or that he needs to be replaced or anything like that, but I don't see any reason to be happy about how he played today.

Not saying our play down the right was great, but youbseem to have missed a couple of things here mate

Howard/Barkley at fault for their goal
Naismith one of a few who didn't produce much of anything

Let's get at the local Kid with a few games under his belt, playing in his first Derby out of position though, eh?

 

[BigDunc'sFod]

You keep saying he defended well. I thought he was okay, but nothing to get excited about. He had no direct opponent with Liverpool not playing wingers, made three tackles, committed two fouls, lost the only defensive header he attempted, and didn't make any interceptions. No big mistakes, either, which is nice, but it's not like he was a dominant force in the defensive half to make up for his lack of attacking.

And, no, we didn't need him to defend. He was playing fullback against a team with no wide midfielders. We needed him to push forward and make overlapping runs past our right winger. That's how you win against a team playing three at the back.

Also need our keepers to prevent goals
Also need our defensive mids to break down all attacks
Also need our centre mids to dictate the tempo
Also need our attacking mids to get assists
Also need good deliveries from our dead ball takers

Still, good to know we didn't need our defenders to defend. Thanks for that insight.

 

[Kurt.]

Look, we haven't won a derby match in a really long time, and we really should have today. We didn't, and I'm not happy about it. In my opinion, the biggest reason we didn't win is that we didn't get a very good performance from our right back. So, yeah, I'm not happy about how Browning played today. That doesn't mean I think he's a bad player or a bad person or that he needs to be replaced or anything like that, but I don't see any reason to be happy about how he played today.

then you my friend need to get out of your stamp collection shed and get yourself a more meaningful and pleasurable existence you quintisential boring Barry.

 

[Robertor]

Look, we haven't won a derby match in a really long time, and we really should have today. We didn't, and I'm not happy about it. In my opinion, the biggest reason we didn't win is that we didn't get a very good performance from our right back. So, yeah, I'm not happy about how Browning played today. That doesn't mean I think he's a bad player or a bad person or that he needs to be replaced or anything like that, but I don't see any reason to be happy about how he played today.

I know the blokes at Sky have fed the football is a stats game rubbish to everyone these days but I'm sure Tyias isn't going to sleep tonight thinking Jesus Christ I haven't made an interception. You're talking as if he's a seasoned pro who we expect the world from, when in reality he's a 21 year old Evertonian playing in his first Goodison Derby, give the lad a break. He's a victim of Stones' success that people expect the world from him, let him settle in to the team before having such high expectations.

 

[Kiwi]

Been impressed with the lad, very solid defensively for a young inexperienced lad playing out of position.
Obviously lacks an end product but wasn't too far away from scoring today.
Can't understand the criticism, surely you aren't expecting him to be Seamus all of a sudden.

 

[chicoazul]

Look, we haven't won a derby match in a really long time, and we really should have today. We didn't, and I'm not happy about it. In my opinion, the biggest reason we didn't win is that we didn't get a very good performance from our right back. So, yeah, I'm not happy about how Browning played today. That doesn't mean I think he's a bad player or a bad person or that he needs to be replaced or anything like that, but I don't see any reason to be happy about how he played today.

We played well defensively not didn't score enough goals to win so that's the prime responsibility of the attacking players is it not?

So you pin it on a young lad making his third start for us straight out of the youth team. In a game where he didn't really put a foot wrong.

Again mate respectfully there's a good reason why every other single person in this thread is taking you to task for your opinion on the matter.

And, no, we didn't need him to defend. He was playing fullback against a team with no wide midfielders. We needed him to push forward and make overlapping runs past our right winger. That's how you win against a team playing three at the back.

Is it? On FIFA 16 or real life? You should apply for the Managers position when it becomes available pal.

 

[mlyons]

We played well defensively not didn't score enough goals to win so that's the prime responsibility of the attacking players is it not?

So you pin it on a young lad making his third start for us straight out of the youth team. In a game where he didn't really put a foot wrong.

Again mate respectfully there's a good reason why every other single person in this thread is taking you to task for your opinion on the matter.



Is it? On FIFA 16 or real life? You should apply for the Managers position when it becomes available pal.

He's an attacking player, though. That's how Everton plays under Martinez. The central midfielders defend and the fullbacks attack, especially when they're playing against a team without any wide midfielders. It's not just Everton -- every really good team in the world has fullbacks who attack first and defend second. That's just how the game is played this century.

And yes, he didn't put a foot wrong. He didn't put a foot right, though, either, and we needed him to in order to win the match.

 

[chicoazul]

He's an attacking player, though. That's how Everton plays under Martinez. The central midfielders defend and the fullbacks attack, especially when they're playing against a team without any wide midfielders. It's not just Everton -- every really good team in the world has fullbacks who attack first and defend second. That's just how the game is played this century.

And yes, he didn't put a foot wrong. He didn't put a foot right, though, either, and we needed him to in order to win the match.

You're calling full backs as part of a back four "attacking players" mate?

And "every good team in the world has fullbacks who attack first and defend second"?

You would have hated Pat van den Hauwe and Gary Stevens presumably?

 

[mlyons]

This century, chico. This century. It's a different game now.

 

[Kurt.]

He's an attacking player, though. That's how Everton plays under Martinez. The central midfielders defend and the fullbacks attack, especially when they're playing against a team without any wide midfielders. It's not just Everton -- every really good team in the world has fullbacks who attack first and defend second. That's just how the game is played this century.

And yes, he didn't put a foot wrong. He didn't put a foot right, though, either, and we needed him to in order to win the match.

Seriously......are you new to football ?

 

[LABlue2]

I think mlyons has a point

Browning has certainly done well for a 21 year old center half playing out of position, but we really do need someone who can support the attack - see how isolated Deulofeu was today

 

[tiny_jacky]

Yes, Browning might lack some attacking flairs but it's also why we defended so well in the past few games, as opposition usually attacks using the spaces left from our attacking full backs(Baines, Coleman, Oviedo), which were basically nullified by Galloway and Browning

 

[BigDunc'sFod]

I think mlyons has a point

Browning has certainly done well for a 21 year old center half playing out of position, but we really do need someone who can support the attack - see how isolated Deulofeu was today

Nobody's questioning the need for a marauding right back lad, were just saying browning isnt plop just because he's not Cafu

Perspective, lads.

 

[WA Toffee]

He's an attacking player, though. That's how Everton plays under Martinez. The central midfielders defend and the fullbacks attack, especially when they're playing against a team without any wide midfielders. It's not just Everton -- every really good team in the world has fullbacks who attack first and defend second. That's just how the game is played this century.

And yes, he didn't put a foot wrong. He didn't put a foot right, though, either, and we needed him to in order to win the match.

If yesterday was the first time you had ever watched Everton, I would agree that it wasn't a performance that you would rave to your mates about.
But this isn't the first time we have watched Everton. We know that Coleman is the first choice right back, and he is very very good at it. We also know that Browning is a very inexperienced centre back being asked to play out of position in one of the biggest games in English football.

If Coleman had put in the same performance as Browning, we would be saying he had a bad game. But that is because we know Coleman is capable of much more. At this stage of his career, Browning probably isn't.

What we don't know though, is what instructions Martinez gave him - did he ask him to sit back a bit and not attack too much? Was he told to not stray too far from Jagielka? Was Deulofeu not following instructions therefore nullifying the spaces he was meant to take advantage of?

Without knowing those things, it is incredibly harsh to say that he didn't play well, especially if we are benchmarking him against Seamus Coleman

 

[LABlue2]

Nobody's questioning the need for a marauding right back lad, were just saying browning isnt plop just because he's not Cafu

Perspective, lads.

HES PLOP OK?