Usmanov

[brieverton]

I don't think he has a title and that's sort of the point. There are a multitude of logical reason's as to why he wouldn't want to be seen as formally involved.

I have to be honest mate, I've never known a sponsor to get to be involved in a recruitment process, never mind select the person, never mind select a key person. To me that's almost unheard of. That is normally the decision an owner would take, or in this instance an owner in all but name. That's the reality. On the scale of probability that is the by far the most likely scenario. Is it certain? Absolutely not, but on the balance of probabilities it makes most sense.

It's good his nephew is involved. It's likely he will inherited most of Usmanov's cash. He's currently running the women's team. It looks a lot like a succession plan to me. A lot of talk he goes onto the main board and people seem quite impressed with him.

I posted in another thread the talk of imminent board changes, admittedly based on Twitter, but I would not be surprised if one of the additions was one of Usmanovs people directly.

It isn't particularly unusual from my own experience for outside parties to be consulted on an appointment, not at all. Even if it was Usmanov who had the final say, all that people need to know is that he had an involvement, and the club/Moshiri don't particularly need to account for that, other than by virtue of his sponsorship.

 

[Zatara]

I don't think he has a title and that's sort of the point. There are a multitude of logical reason's as to why he wouldn't want to be seen as formally involved.

I have to be honest mate, I've never known a sponsor to get to be involved in a recruitment process, never mind select the person, never mind select a key person. To me that's almost unheard of. That is normally the decision an owner would take, or in this instance an owner in all but name. That's the reality. On the scale of probability that is the by far the most likely scenario. Is it certain? Absolutely not, but on the balance of probabilities it makes most sense.

It's good his nephew is involved. It's likely he will inherited most of Usmanov's cash. He's currently running the women's team. It looks a lot like a succession plan to me. A lot of talk he goes onto the main board and people seem quite impressed with him.

Good point this...could well be that Usmanov doesnt come on board ever

But his nephew does as the partner to Moshiri.

Could be Usmanov has planted his nephew in to learn the ropes while the accountant runs the thing from above

 

[catcherintherye]

I posted in another thread the talk of imminent board changes, admittedly based on Twitter, but I would not be surprised if one of the additions was one of Usmanovs people directly.

It isn't particularly unusual from my own experience for outside parties to be consulted on an appointment, not at all. Even if it was Usmanov who had the final say, all that people need to know is that he had an involvement, and the club/Moshiri don't particularly need to account for that, other than by virtue of his sponsorship.

Being consulted is one thing, but meeting the guy to interview them is quite another.

I mean, the candidate would not see them for a start.

I work on probabilities, the probability hes a back seat owner just seems far higher than hes just a mate making the decisions an owner would.

 

[catcherintherye]

Good point this...could well be that Usmanov doesnt come on board ever

But his nephew does as the partner to Moshiri.

Could be Usmanov has planted his nephew in to learn the ropes while the accountant runs the thing from above

I think if Usmanov wanted to come he would. Or wanted to come publicly he would.

Embedding his nephew (bare in mind he has no kids) to learn the ropes before inheriting a huge fortune seems to fit the profile. Also means the funding wont die with Usmanov as well.

 

[matty1878]

Being consulted is one thing, but meeting the guy to interview them is quite another.

I mean, the candidate would not see them for a start.

I work on probabilities, the probability hes a back seat owner just seems far higher than hes just a mate making the decisions an owner would.

would he come aboard so we can spend more?

 

[catcherintherye]

would he come aboard so we can spend more?

I dont think it would make any difference really. Probably makes it harder to soend more, and he has to come into the limelight. Why bother?

 

[matty1878]

I dont think it would make any difference really. Probably makes it harder to soend more, and he has to come into the limelight. Why bother?

so if we have his backing, can’t we serve FFP and just buy?

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Unsmanov's nephew being in the photos with benitez and commenting on the direction of the club probably hints that he's involved.

Always thought the Russian on the board was Usmanov’s proxy. So in reality he is a major player he just chooses to move in the shadows.

 

[catcherintherye]

so if we have his backing, can’t we serve FFP and just buy?

Theoretically we could try. Whether we would want to? I dont know. We havent yet.

 

[catcherintherye]

Always thought the Russian on the board was Usmanov’s proxy. So in reality he is a major player he just chooses to move in the shadows.

And if you follow Usmanov, he rarely sits on boards of tho gs he owns. He appoints someone to represent his interest.

 

[matty1878]

Theoretically we could try. Whether we would want to? I dont know. We havent yet.

well if we want to like moshiri keeps saying then we do need to do it mate to compete

 

[jonnyboy316]

Given the level of investment in players and stadium costs it seems inconceivable that Mosh is in this alone

 

[catcherintherye]

Given the level of investment in players and stadium costs it seems inconceivable that Mosh is in this alone

Yes another fair point.

He either has a lot more money than is broadly reported (which is widely accepted anyway) or others are involved. Some possibility both are true.

 

[sideshow bill]

I have to admit that I welcomed his perceived involvement. His disregard for the majority of the true owners of our club in installing FSW as our manager has made me wish that he'd stayed at Arsenal.

 

[BNJ1878]

I have to admit that I welcomed his perceived involvement. His disregard for the majority of the true owners of our club in installing FSW as our manager

I'll give him a large dollop of kudos for that exact reason.

Biblical levels of bedwetting over appointing a proven manager.

Yesterdays man? Maybe.

We're kidding ourselves believing we can attract the elite level or next big thing. He's recognised that and gone against fan opinion. If we'd wait for universal fan approval we'd be managerless all the way to relegation.

A steady ship with incremental growth is needed.

has made me wish that he'd stayed at Arsenal.

Really? Because we'd still have a blue in charge?

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.


Oh well, each to their own