So what if your are a socialist,And don't cheer him taking over...buuuttt cheer the goals that go in,by the players that where paid for by Usmanov.... Does this mean i'am still a crap Socialist?Just asking for a Socialist Friend.
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Are we looking at matters a bit to simplistically. There is a new stadium in the offing in a prime location, Ancellotti comes in and see the club as a project. Is their a belief between Moshirir and Usmanov as seeing Everton as a club ripe for for getting to the top?
It seems to me that there is more to what is happening than meets the eye.
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It is all in the dots
Just a matter of which way you join them up
Everton football club is a means to an end and an ego trip as well
The fact that they get a chance to go one up on Kronke is a bonus.
Why did Usmanov meet Ancelotti when Arsenal were linked
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Are we looking at matters a bit to simplistically. There is a new stadium in the offing in a prime location, Ancellotti comes in and see the club as a project. Is their a belief between Moshirir and Usmanov as seeing Everton as a club ripe for for getting to the top?
It seems to me that there is more to what is happening than meets the eye.
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It is all in the dots
Just a matter of which way you join them up
Everton football club is a means to an end and an ego trip as well
The fact that they get a chance to go one up on Kronke is a bonus.
Why did Usmanov meet Ancelotti when Arsenal were linked
@roydo .
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Its the way of big business.
They have ways of making money you have never dreamed off.
They can see opportunities 10 years away,and they never tell anyone except their inner circle anything
Billysgingham.
Player Valuation: £40m
didn't Paul walker did in a car crash, and the car was traveling at 100mph.
Diogenes the Cynic
Player Valuation: £40m
Well that's one theory certainly. But we'll probably never know for sure.
Billysgingham.
Player Valuation: £40m
Ye but he did just drop dead though.
El Loco
Player Valuation: Free Transfer
Like George R R Martin will have a 'ghost' writer to finish the GoT books, Uzzi will be in the stands full of poor peoples organs....... Hang on!
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Diogenes the Cynic
Player Valuation: £40m
Cameron Manning
Player Valuation: £35m
Who is Paul Walker? Was he any relation to Billy Walker out of Coronation Street?
Dario Terracotta
Player Valuation: £70m
lol lol lol
CrustySack
Player Valuation: £0.99p
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
It is all in the dots
Just a matter of which way you join them up
Everton football club is a means to an end and an ego trip as well
The fact that they get a chance to go one up on Kronke is a bonus.
Why did Usmanov meet Ancelotti when Arsenal were linked
@roydo .
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I remember when I would play blackjack at casino's in my younger years, you would often see groups of eastern European men come in, blow 500 quid in a short space of time, go and get some more, lose again. Get some more, win a load and cash the chips.
I'd always wonder where people get so much money from. Nobody at the casino really asks. They are turning money over.
If you have income streams that you want to obfuscate (for a variety of reasons) then a football club is an excellent way to do it.
Usmanov's wealth I've seen as upwards of 18 billion, with significant access to liquidity. If he's involved we have to assume Skotch will be involved too (circa 6-8 billion). The 3 of them have official wealth of upwards of 25 billion officially. Goodness knows how much unnofficially.
I saw earlier on this thread, that Gazprom is heavily owned by the Russian state, but Usmanov owns shares and influence.
I am not stating this is my belief, but posing a question, but could it be possible that the Russian state is looking to acquire Cultural institutions in the west and potentially key property developments in England? To build a broader portfolio? To be able to exert influence etc?
If that were the aim, guys like Usmanov who are well ingratiated with a variety of individuals would be a pretty good way of doing it. Moshiri is particularly adept at the connections he has.
If Usmanov has an involvement in Everton, I would suggest that figures that go much beyond Usmanov may also be involved.
It could all be untrue of course. However if you look at our balance sheet, any orthodox reading would be we are in rather a lot of trouble, posting record losses. Hardly symptomatic of a club who can go and fork out a huge sum of money for a top manager and give him a bumper transfer kitty. So it suggests that those running the club are viewing it in a different dimension to this.
It's hard to believe a guy with a couple of billion to his name is happy to gamble all of his holdings on Everton in the manner the has.
Billysgingham.
Player Valuation: £40m
Uncle.
I remember when I would play blackjack at casino's in my younger years, you would often see groups of eastern European men come in, blow 500 quid in a short space of time, go and get some more, lose again. Get some more, win a load and cash the chips.
I'd always wonder where people get so much money from. Nobody at the casino really asks. They are turning money over.
If you have income streams that you want to obfuscate (for a variety of reasons) then a football club is an excellent way to do it.
Usmanov's wealth I've seen as upwards of 18 billion, with significant access to liquidity. If he's involved we have to assume Skotch will be involved too (circa 6-8 billion). The 3 of them have official wealth of upwards of 25 billion officially. Goodness knows how much unnofficially.
I saw earlier on this thread, that Gazprom is heavily owned by the Russian state, but Usmanov owns shares and influence.
I am not stating this is my belief, but posing a question, but could it be possible that the Russian state is looking to acquire Cultural institutions in the west and potentially key property developments in England? To build a broader portfolio? To be able to exert influence etc?
If that were the aim, guys like Usmanov who are well ingratiated with a variety of individuals would be a pretty good way of doing it. Moshiri is particularly adept at the connections he has.
If Usmanov has an involvement in Everton, I would suggest that figures that go much beyond Usmanov may also be involved.
It could all be untrue of course. However if you look at our balance sheet, any orthodox reading would be we are in rather a lot of trouble, posting record losses. Hardly symptomatic of a club who can go and fork out a huge sum of money for a top manager and give him a bumper transfer kitty. So it suggests that those running the club are viewing it in a different dimension to this.
It's hard to believe a guy with a couple of billion to his name is happy to gamble all of his holdings on Everton in the manner the has.
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There is definitely stuff going on behind the scenes that we will never be privy to .
I have no idea who or what is involved except for two things.
1) Everton is a way into Liverpool waters.
I look at Dublin ,London,NYC,San Diego and other cities with brownfield sites by the water and see the development that has gone on.
One big building is all it needs to act as a catalyst
BMD is that catalyst
2) Usmanov is definitely involved,and I would not be surprised to see his stepson( a property developer in Moscow) become involved
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