Usmanov

[JobForTheMoyes]

Its the way of big business.
They have ways of making money you have never dreamed off.
They can see opportunities 10 years away,and they never tell anyone except their inner circle anything

Football clubs are a good way to launder money if you are a Russian gangster!

 

[Yarrgh]

Molby was blessed every pre season he completed.

You never know, roll the dice and take your chances.

That Paul Walker was fit as a fiddle and he just dropped dead in his prime.

Pavarotti will never die. He lives on every time I feel classy and listen to opera as I watch Rocco Siffredi videos.

To be fair it was a miracle every time he came back from Norway that he didn't have an harpoon sticking out his arse.

I remember a pundit calling him bacon framed. So maybe he was Danish. lol

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

I remember when I would play blackjack at casino's in my younger years, you would often see groups of eastern European men come in, blow 500 quid in a short space of time, go and get some more, lose again. Get some more, win a load and cash the chips.

I'd always wonder where people get so much money from. Nobody at the casino really asks. They are turning money over.

If you have income streams that you want to obfuscate (for a variety of reasons) then a football club is an excellent way to do it.

Usmanov's wealth I've seen as upwards of 18 billion, with significant access to liquidity. If he's involved we have to assume Skotch will be involved too (circa 6-8 billion). The 3 of them have official wealth of upwards of 25 billion officially. Goodness knows how much unnofficially.

I saw earlier on this thread, that Gazprom is heavily owned by the Russian state, but Usmanov owns shares and influence.

I am not stating this is my belief, but posing a question, but could it be possible that the Russian state is looking to acquire Cultural institutions in the west and potentially key property developments in England? To build a broader portfolio? To be able to exert influence etc?

If that were the aim, guys like Usmanov who are well ingratiated with a variety of individuals would be a pretty good way of doing it. Moshiri is particularly adept at the connections he has.

If Usmanov has an involvement in Everton, I would suggest that figures that go much beyond Usmanov may also be involved.

It could all be untrue of course. However if you look at our balance sheet, any orthodox reading would be we are in rather a lot of trouble, posting record losses. Hardly symptomatic of a club who can go and fork out a huge sum of money for a top manager and give him a bumper transfer kitty. So it suggests that those running the club are viewing it in a different dimension to this.

It's hard to believe a guy with a couple of billion to his name is happy to gamble all of his holdings on Everton in the manner the has.
There is definitely stuff going on behind the scenes that we will never be privy to .
I have no idea who or what is involved except for two things.

1) Everton is a way into Liverpool waters.
I look at Dublin ,London,NYC,San Diego and other cities with brownfield sites by the water and see the development that has gone on.
One big building is all it needs to act as a catalyst
BMD is that catalyst

2) Usmanov is definitely involved,and I would not be surprised to see his stepson( a property developer in Moscow) become involved

Great post

The way what used to be the working man’s game has gone really turns my stomach.

 

[blue to the bone]

Great post

The way what used to be the working man’s game has gone really turns my stomach.

You ain't old though are you.
Do you remember any different

 

[DaChunk]

I mean I personally wouldn't have an issue with dropping Z Cars for the Soviet Anthem once we move to BMD. If what you guys are theorising is true that is.

 

[Togger Blue]

Dilbar currently moored at Barcelona - Alisher on holiday, or business?

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

You ain't old though are you.
Do you remember any different

Of course - I grew up just as it was all changing.

 

[blue to the bone]

Of course - I grew up just as it was all changing.

But ya cant remember howard kendall?

 

[mrb85]

We'll see if Usmanov is involved by how much money we spend in the January window. I think he is. And I now have come round to hoping that he is. If we want to be in the shake up for any imminent Euroleague then there is now no more time to lose (though if he is centrally involved then I suspect his "influence" would ensure our place in such a league set up anyway). I find the idea of a Euroleague abhorrent. But if you can't beat them you've got to join them. The alternative is us playing in a future EPL in which the Euroleague clubs will field their second string.

 

[bluebud]

Dilbar currently moored at Barcelona - Alisher on holiday, or business?

As is Mr Putin's yacht Graceful, both are berthed in Barca most of the year, Usmanovs previous yacht Dilmar I (now Al Raya) is still berthed there as well.

 

[chrismpw]

Molby was blessed every pre season he completed.

You never know, roll the dice and take your chances.

That Paul Walker was fit as a fiddle and he just dropped dead in his prime.

Pavarotti will never die. He lives on every time I feel classy and listen to opera as I watch Rocco Siffredi videos.

Dont tell me I'm the only one here who knows that the great Pavarotti died a few years back.

Utter peasants.

 

[BlueStevie35]

Dont tell me I'm the only one here who knows that the great Pavarotti died a few years back.

Utter peasants.

Never mind that, Paul Walker didn't drop dead, he was killed in a fireball after crashing his car at high speed

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Dont tell me I'm the only one here who knows that the great Pavarotti died a few years back.

Utter peasants.

Not sure why anyone would tell you that but happy to oblige, you elitist minge.

 

[chrismpw]

Never mind that, Paul Walker didn't drop dead, he was killed in a fireball after crashing his car at high speed

I'm not sure I even know who he was!

 

[chrismpw]

Not sure why anyone would tell you that but happy to oblige, you elitist minge.

lol

Git!

He's dead by the way. Sadly.