Vaping as bad for your heart as smoking!!!

[big bobs beard]

I'm only half playing mate. Ash makes me laugh with his passion for this.

Not my cup of tea though really.

I'd rather have a real black jack or maybe even it's brother from another mother, the fruit salad!

I know - he should stop rising to the bait . Knew you were joking - flavours sound good though!

 

[USABlue]

one thing for people to note, correlation doesn't imply causation.

 

[peteblue]

Thanks for the warning! It's been a month so could happen! I am 46, smoked since 21 not heavy between 5-15 depending on the day really. Tbh honest used to always have sinus problems which pretty much disappeared over night, had no cough which I expected and have even stopped snoring so missus is delighted. Helped we gave up together so far so good. Got to admit, had about 5 days off sick in 12 years teaching so know what you mean about the immune systeM. Also after blood tests got called back to the doctors for a same day appointment as the results came in and got to admit I was petrified, the fear of the big C was horrendous, so that fear is also driving me on to stay stopped. As I said just been good for me so far. Though @peteblue a bit of a cynic! No beret wearing just sharing my own experience mate which I thought this forum is all about.

Haha, I'm only messing mate, if you want to wear the Beret then do so with pride.......

 

[big bobs beard]

Haha, I'm only messing mate, if you want to wear the Beret then do so with pride.......

Will look like Frank Spencer!

 

[Paul w]

You do know that stuff is as safe as fresh air right? In fact standing near a road with cars going past is a hell of a lot more dangerous to be breathing than next to someone vaping?

I get that people don't want the vapour blown at them, I always avoid doing it around people.

I never seen anything to say it's as safe as fresh air mate and if someone told me that I would not believe them,isnt it an aid to stop smoking,or am I wrong.

 

[Ashtonian]

I never seen anything to say it's as safe as fresh air mate and if someone told me that I would not believe them,isnt it an aid to stop smoking,or am I wrong.

https://purplebox.ie/blogs/news/366...found-to-be-equivalent-to-breathing-fresh-air

There is a result off the first page of Google.

Basically for bystanders it is like breathing fresh air. No different to it and it will have zero affect on you. No second hand nicotine either, so in terms of the vapour for anyone else you could breathe it in all day and have no negative effect.

That article also references how vaping probably doesn't cause things like cancer and what not either but I skimmed it so can't argue thst point from it.

 

[Tubey]

https://purplebox.ie/blogs/news/366...found-to-be-equivalent-to-breathing-fresh-air

There is a result off the first page of Google.

Basically for bystanders it is like breathing fresh air. No different to it and it will have zero affect on you. No second hand nicotine either, so in terms of the vapour for anyone else you could breathe it in all day and have no negative effect.

That article also references how vaping probably doesn't cause things like cancer and what not either but I skimmed it so can't argue thst point from it.

At the very worst, equivalent to standing next to a boiling kettle.

 

[scratchnsurf]

At the very worst, equivalent to standing next to a boiling kettle.

Milk no sugar please Tubes.

 

[Paul w]

https://purplebox.ie/blogs/news/366...found-to-be-equivalent-to-breathing-fresh-air

There is a result off the first page of Google.

Basically for bystanders it is like breathing fresh air. No different to it and it will have zero affect on you. No second hand nicotine either, so in terms of the vapour for anyone else you could breathe it in all day and have no negative effect.

That article also references how vaping probably doesn't cause things like cancer and what not either but I skimmed it so can't argue thst point from it.

Thanks for that read it don't believe it,but then I think there is a conspiracy theory for everything thanks anyway.

 

[Paul w]

https://purplebox.ie/blogs/news/366...found-to-be-equivalent-to-breathing-fresh-air

There is a result off the first page of Google.

Basically for bystanders it is like breathing fresh air. No different to it and it will have zero affect on you. No second hand nicotine either, so in terms of the vapour for anyone else you could breathe it in all day and have no negative effect.

That article also references how vaping probably doesn't cause things like cancer and what not either but I skimmed it so can't argue thst point from it.

Mate if you use them are they any aid to help you to quit,and if they are how long do you use them for because it seems is a really big thing there is shops popping up everywhere.

 

[Tubey]

I never seen anything to say it's as safe as fresh air mate and if someone told me that I would not believe them,isnt it an aid to stop smoking,or am I wrong.

This is the general knowledge problem with e-cigarettes - people have been conditioned to think certain things about cigarettes, and equate e-cigarettes as the same thing.

Common sense tells you vapour from e-cigarettes is completely harmless. It's not smoke, so it doesn't carry anything like the same type of risk.

The actual problem is that nobody is arsed doing studies on this, because they're focusing on the actual vaping first. But as said, common sense tells you that glycol/glycerine being essentially boiled and released as steam is going to do no more harm than boiling a kettle, given the same ingredients are in inhalers for example.

 

[Paul w]

This is the general knowledge problem with e-cigarettes - people have been conditioned to think certain things about cigarettes, and equate e-cigarettes as the same thing.

Common sense tells you vapour from e-cigarettes is completely harmless. It's not smoke, so it doesn't carry anything like the same type of risk.

The actual problem is that nobody is arsed doing studies on this, because they're focusing on the actual vaping first. But as said, common sense tells you that glycol/glycerine being essentially boiled and released as steam is going to do no more harm than boiling a kettle, given the same ingredients are in inhalers for example.

I haven't been conditioned about ciggys mate I've seen facts and end product of death through cigs,i don't equate them to be the same at all,im surmising they are an aid to quit,so common sense as you say would make me think there is something in them to help wean you off them,that would be common sense to me.

 

[Tubey]

I haven't been conditioned about ciggys mate I've seen facts and end product of death through cigs,i don't equate them to be the same at all,im surmising they are an aid to quit,so common sense as you say would make me think there is something in them to help wean you off them,that would be common sense to me.

Nicotine mate. That's it. Due to how vapour disperses when compared to smoke (including at point blank range), even nicotine levels in vapour are environmentally irrelevant.

 

[Moomin]

https://purplebox.ie/blogs/news/366...found-to-be-equivalent-to-breathing-fresh-air

There is a result off the first page of Google.

Basically for bystanders it is like breathing fresh air. No different to it and it will have zero affect on you. No second hand nicotine either, so in terms of the vapour for anyone else you could breathe it in all day and have no negative effect.

That article also references how vaping probably doesn't cause things like cancer and what not either but I skimmed it so can't argue thst point from it.

Haha tobacco company who is involved in vaping paid for that testing.

Oh my, just like they paid for testing in the 50's, 60's to prove cigarettes were not a danger.

You couldn't make it up.

 

[Paul w]

Nicotine mate. That's it. Due to how vapour disperses when compared to smoke (including at point blank range), even nicotine levels in vapour are environmentally irrelevant.

Ok thanks so if you use them as an ex smoker for how long to you think before you don't need the aid I know that like how long is a piece of string but I'm just trying to get my head around this,or do you get addicted to these as well.