VAR

[Victus]

I dunno mate, no complaints from the player himself, it was nasty and late.

I genuinely think it's a yellow at most.

 

[Goat]

I genuinely think it's a yellow at most.

Hmmmm.



After watching that a few times, maybe I was wrong, its not as blatant as I first thought, it was the lack of arguing that got me, the player just took the red.

 

[neil999]

Gomes has been sent off?!? We aren't even playing tonight...this is getting out of hand

 

[John from Bootle]

I genuinely think it's a yellow at most.

Hmm not sure. He's gone in from behind (no laughing at the back) and caught him on the achilles with the studs quite heftily.

I will say though; I've only seen that one clip that Goat posted, and I reserve the right to change my mind.

 

[DanB90]

Gomes has been sent off?!? We aren't even playing tonight...this is getting out of hand

It’s a conspiraceee!

 

[MisterJ]

who is in charge of auditing this?
A decent journalist should look at all VAR decisions. This seems a bit light weight... has RS as the most punished side. seem suss

How VAR decisions have affected every Premier League club in 2023-24

We're collating a league table of overturned VAR decisions in 2023-24. Who will benefit most over the course of the Premier League season?

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Even VAR can't ignore how often Salah is offside

 

[hallamblue]

Even VAR can't ignore how often Salah is offside

Second only to Rashford. As Fergie used to say about Pippo Inzaghi " he was born offside"!

 

[Tommy Chong]

I'd happily see VAR go completely, its been a disaster for the game.

Pre-VAR if there was a howler, e.g. a "wrong" sending off then it would be spotted on MOTD and rescinded on the Monday. Ditto, a referee having a howler would be suspended.

VAR is ruining the flow of the game and supporters/players can't fully celebrate a goal (in case it gets pulled back).

We've had VAR for how many seasons now?

It's gone far beyond the initial 'teething' stage and now it's suppose be to improving as it evolves.

So far, it's seems be getting worse and it's turning football into a complete joke.

 

[Bwana]

I'll say it again close calls nearly always go with the colour of the shirt, or who/ what team is wearing them.

Used to be called "home advantage" also. Give 'em a couple more than the visitor, for the crowd. And that was fine.

 

[Jacko93]

I think you are right per the offside rule - but there's an argument for saying it should be judged on the final touch as up to that point the player passing still effectively has possession.

Law 11 - Offside

IFAB Laws of the Game

www.thefa.com

That's changed.

So, if I control the ball when my teamate is offside, and keep control of it until he gets onside in one movement, then play it through, he still offside?

Why do they change things that don't need changing.

 

[9LeagueTitles5FACups]

Hmmmm.



After watching that a few times, maybe I was wrong, its not as blatant as I first thought, it was the lack of arguing that got me, the player just took the red.

It looks closer to a red card than the DCL red card last night, but I reckon that's a yellow at most.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

No that’s not it. I’m not saying there’s no point in having VAR because of that I’m saying that I don’t think VAR works in those situations because referees are overturning their own decisions because somebody else is disagreeing with them even though they saw the thing perfectly well in the first place. Pointing out a clear and obvious error is fine but that isn’t what is happening and that’s where the problems with VAR are coming in. It’s only my opinion I wouldn’t have given it if I’d know I was going to have to explain it 50 times.

Apologies JimmyK, I don't want to argue with you on details because I think we are largely in agreement. I agree that VAR in its current form isn't fit for purposes. If your point is that having another person state that you need to take another look at a decision that you saw perfectly well is undermining for the on field ref and puts pressure on them to change their mind then I agree. VAR would work better if they followed the cricket example and allowed each team a certain number of appeals per game with the on field ref deciding each one (and they should be able to appeal every decision, throw, corner, yellow card everything). It doesn't remove the bias element of it but it gives the best chance of making sure all decisions are correct.

 

[blulouie]

Do you think I’m trying to justify why decisions go against us is that it? I don’t know how you’ve thought that but I’m definitely not doing that! I’m saying they should get rid of VAR in its current form because it doesn’t work and is ruining football not saying the decisions against us are right, it not being fit for purpose is what I’ve been trying to tell you!

Sounds like a justification to me .

You have been using the subjective term as if that is the right way and shouldn't be questioned.
We need to question all of these decisions as a lot never go our way , yet favour many other teams.

We agree VAR is not fit for purpose and should be updated ,simplified or scrapped.
That doesn't mean while we have it we should just say nothing because it's a different opinion than the officials running it.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Hmm not sure. He's gone in from behind (no laughing at the back) and caught him on the achilles with the studs quite heftily.

I will say though; I've only seen that one clip that Goat posted, and I reserve the right to change my mind.

Suarez did that about three times in a derby and I don't he was even booked. Proper nasty deliberate career ending tackles. Not to mention Kuyt/Carragher/Gerrard. I try not to be bitter about this stuff but I could fill a book with genuine grievances.

 

[Dykovski200]

Anybody know where we are in the league of crap VAR decisions this season, we’ve gotta be near the top.