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VAR

What was is, 3, 4 minutes to decide he was offside? Looked level AT WORST to me yet they seemed to find some magical daylight when drawing the lines.
Did you see how thick the spectacles were on the pair of them?

Mr. Magoo 1 & Mr. Magoo 2 FFS!

No wonder it took them forever to reach a decision.

They probably fluffed drawing the line a couple of times before getting it right. 🤦‍♂️
 

Have we had the lines drawn pic from today?

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Total bollocks. As a striker you look along the line to know your position, you can't judge a toe or your forehead in game played at pace. The offside rule was to stop goal hanging, the above isn't an example of that at all, so if you have to draw a line to decide if the attacker is onside or not, they are onside!

The authorities are sucking the joy out of football, we are there for the goals and almost every bloody one now is sent for review as they try and find a reason to disallow (if you are on the PL/ref blacklist) or allow, if you are on the favorite pile.
 

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Total bollocks. As a striker you look along the line to know your position, you can't judge a toe or your forehead in game played at pace. The offside rule was to stop goal hanging, the above isn't an example of that at all, so if you have to draw a line to decide if the attacker is onside or not, they are onside!

The authorities are sucking the joy out of football, we are there for the goals and almost every bloody one now is sent for review as they try and find a reason to disallow (if you are on the PL/ref blacklist) or allow, if you are on the favorite pile.
Objectively speaking though there’s 2 men offside there and you don’t need lines drawn to see it
 
Objectively speaking though there’s 2 men offside there and you don’t need lines drawn to see it
Sadly yes.

Apart from the joy-sucking nature of the process I'm still annoyed that apparently the shoulder/arm is most often used to draw the lines, it can make a difference if you're pointing to a team mate or falling over. Nuts.
 
Objectively speaking though there’s 2 men offside there and you don’t need lines drawn to see it

They're level. If we were to move the lines back so it passes through the centre mass it would intersect straight through them all including the linesman. Appendages for me don't count, that was never in the spirit of the game or rules. That's a modern thing trying to introduce some razzmatazz that is totally unnecessary to a game that should NEVER have a 3 minute pause to decide if something is legit or not. If it's not clear and obvious then it should be allowed. And just to point out had that been a Southampton goal chalked off, I would have equally felt the same injustice. That's a goal.

That example would be really interesting to see if the automated system would have allowed it or not.
 
They're level. If we were to move the lines back so it passes through the centre mass it would intersect straight through them all including the linesman. Appendages for me don't count, that was never in the spirit of the game or rules. That's a modern thing trying to introduce some razzmatazz that is totally unnecessary to a game that should NEVER have a 3 minute pause to decide if something is legit or not. If it's not clear and obvious then it should be allowed. And just to point out had that been a Southampton goal chalked off, I would have equally felt the same injustice. That's a goal.

That example would be really interesting to see if the automated system would have allowed it or not.

The Southampton fans mostly agree with you on the principal though relieved they got some luck.

The trouble is a line has to be drawn somewhere. I could live with the idea that bits of the body you can't score with (arms/hands) didn't count, but the current implementation says they do.

Centre mass would still be open to numties in the VAR room deciding if semi erect todgers counted or if a pert buttock made the difference.

We've lost the original reason and purpose of VAR. Clear and obvious? + not spending 3+ mins before overturning an on field decision with a contentious alternative.
 

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