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Violence at the games

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hktoffee said:
Alright my wrong understanding but I feel result may act as an extra catalyst?
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Maybe sometimes, but not with whats been happening out there over the last few days. It hasn't even really got anything to do with football... just a load of trained Russian fighters out there practicing for the invasion of Europe.. The French police love it too... I've heard and read a fare few stories about what that lot get up to.
 
I know that the hooliganism is nothing to do with the football but clearly at the end of the England game there were plenty of them in the Russian sector. I know a lot of good people out in France at the moment and what scares me is that the threat of disqualification hangs over the Russians whilst they remain the tournament. What will happen if the Russians are knocked out in the final game against Wales. The way UEFA have done this means that Russia and the fans may have nothing to lose by the end of the Russia game.
 
Kurt said:
No Sympathy for any of the English fans getting hoofed by boris.... it's payback for decades of travelling around Europe thinking they ruled the place and destroying towns, businesses and families. And whilst I don't condone the violence at all... sorry England,, you've had it coming.
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Shocking comment. So if I batter an innocent West Ham fan its OK because it is only payback for what the ICF used to get up to years ago?

What about Muslims? Would that be 'payback' for what Al Qaeda/IS get up to?

No, I thought not.

Outrageous thing to say.
 
Rob17896 said:
As its Europe I would play it as a league with home and away. Not having fans staying for long periods anywhere. Too many can't behave and security concerns are too big at the moment to waste time with these biffs.

And to all the 'decent' fans. Sorry you are thick. We all know what travelling with England means so stop moaning, you have personal responsibilty for your safety as well. Who would take the kids to that?!!!
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So 98%of football fans are thick. Sorry mate, but that is a ridiculous comment. Ive been away with England a few times and have on the whole it has been a brilliant time, no trouble and good humoured. The authorities have imo, have done a great job in weeding out the bad apples and encouraging familes to go to matches. Germany 2006 and Portugal 2004 prime examples. Even the domestic game has improved fot the better. A lot of decent fans go away with Everton, are we thick as well? After all we had a reputation in the 70/80s
 

duncs pigeon said:
So 98%of football fans are thick. Sorry mate, but that is a ridiculous comment. Ive been away with England a few times and have on the whole it has been a brilliant time, no trouble and good humoured. The authorities have imo, have done a great job in weeding out the bad apples and encouraging familes to go to matches. Germany 2006 and Portugal 2004 prime examples. Even the domestic game has improved fot the better. A lot of decent fans go away with Everton, are we thick as well? After all we had a reputation in the 70/80s
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Probably bad choice of language but it is guaranteed that there is trouble . And something else is that stuff you could not get away with in normal life is ignored in a football situation. Outside pubs insulting women, pretending to be an aeroplane to wind up a mancunian, a game of football crashing around the inside of a motorway service station. It all gets ignored as police are happy to contain as long as damage is minimal and no real violence. England guarantees a level of trouble and behaviour away. I would not take a woman or kid with the away support of England and would not want them in my town.
 
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jaycee said:
Thought i was watching hard core Henry for a minute,I would be on my toes if I seen a pair of green striped hot pants chasing at me,they make fantascruff look like a CK model,also shows what a gang of cowards they are attacking ones and twos,edited the bits out were they got chased,then when they come up against a equal number dont want to know
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Thought they looked a bit nervy at times in the video, but then again this was the camera crew. If they would have ran into a real mob instead of picking out ones and twos there probably wouldn't be any footage.
 

Alanbileysfeathercut said:
Who are they going to fine for the lack of segregation/crowd control IN the stadium?
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I don't know I was thinking more about us being excluded from the tournament. If there is no trouble from us inside or in vicinity of the stadium then UEFA can't exclude us. I am sure I read this somewhere
 
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Thought they looked a bit nervy at times in the video, but then again this was the camera crew. If they would have ran into a real mob instead of picking out ones and twos there probably wouldn't be any footage.
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Its a lad with a go pro cam if you watch again they run into a mob of English at the bottom of the steps and one of the Russians gets sparked so they ran the other way,the scruff in the hotpants is seen stamping on a head in news footage
 
ToffeeMark said:
Yeah, I think the guy attacked at 1.50 is the chap in a coma with life changing injuries. Hope he recovers but severe brain injuries are awful.

The guys that did that are pretty low quality human beings.
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You mean the guy whos throwing chairs at them?

I mean not saying he deserves to be where he is now, but kinda destroys the "innocent victim" story a little.
 

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