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Even if it is a Miyota movement there's nowt wrong with that...I found out while digging last night that they also came up with the UHF caliber that's in the Bulova Precisionist line which I think are pretty sweet as they're a three-prong quartz movement but at 262 kHz so the seconds hand sweeps almost as smooth as a Seiko spring drive. Their 9015 hi-beat caliber has a fantastic rep too...but yeah, who knows. Only thing that matters is that you like it, I was just curious as Citizen isn't deep into the mech movement area in general so maybe they're going all-in now, which would be good. With all the crap that went on with ETA (aka Swatch Group) movements, it'd be good to have another possible supplier to micro brands if ETA start threatening people again.

Some Miyota movements are pretty poor, such as their 8215, which has large QC problems. But others are decent. My sense is Citizen is making a big play into the mechanical movements, having bought Frederique Constant and Bulova and La Joux-Perret (which makes seriously nice high-end movements).

Good quick overview by Forbes here.

As to the ETA fiasco, it seems a lot of the smaller brands are moving to Sellita, which is just fine as they used to make the parts for ETA anyhoo.

edit: I should add, even after 20+ years of watch-insanity, I'm still not sure where I fall out on the "in-house" versus ETA vs Sellita vs other movement "issue." I sometimes buy a watch for the movement (e.g Tudor, North Flag) and sometimes buy watches purely for the aesthetic, such at the PAM 283, which has a stripped down 7750 movement in it, and works just fine for me. When push comes to shove, I mostly pick a watch on design, heritage, reputation, and not necessarily the movement inside (as quite a few watches in produced by luxury brands in the 2000s had ETAs of some form).
 
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Some Miyota movements are pretty poor, such as their 8215, which has large QC problems. But others are decent. My sense is Citizen is making a big play into the mechanical movements, having bought Frederique Constant and Bulova and La Joux-Perret (which makes seriously nice high-end movements).

Good quick overview by Forbes here.

As to the ETA fiasco, it seems a lot of the smaller brands are moving to Sellita, which is just fine as they used to make the parts for ETA anyhoo.

That's good (more Citizen mechs). Yeah, my LumTec has a Sellita SW200 in it; I purposely avoided an ETA movement just thinking in regards to future maintenance since who knows what they're gonna' pull in the future.
 
Like this? Oris Diver's Sivty-Five Chrono...over 4k US though. But something like that? But without the bezel perhaps
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That is a good looking piece. But yes ultimately looking away from dive watches if I was to spend over 1k GBP (at this present time). I think I would get a decent but not hugely expensive dive watch in the not too distant future though. Whether I ignore the RW and go for it now I don't know. I'm saving to move house at the moment and if I was really good I would knock it on the head until that is all sorted...but so tempting seeing it's on offer!! Definitely going to have to start a Watches Anonymous group.
 
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That is a good looking piece. But yes ultimately looking away from dive watches if I was to spend over 1k GBP (at this present time). I think I would get a decent but not hugely expensive dive watch in the not too distant future though. Whether I ignore the RW and go for it now I don't know. I'm saving to move house at the moment and if I was really good I would knock it on the head until thst is all sorted...but so tempting seeing it's on offer!! Definitely going to have to start a Watches Anonymous group.

Check out the look of the Tissot Heritage 1948...keep in mind maintenance on a mechanical chrono can be pricey, unless it being a chrono isn't a requirement.
 
edit: I should add, even after 20+ years of watch-insanity, I'm still not sure where I fall out on the "in-house" versus ETA vs Sellita vs other movement "issue." I sometimes buy a watch for the movement (e.g Tudor, North Flag) and sometimes buy watches purely for the aesthetic, such at the PAM 283, which has a stripped down 7750 movement in it, and works just fine for me. When push comes to shove, I mostly pick a watch on design, heritage, reputation, and not necessarily the movement inside (as quite a few watches in produced by luxury brands in the 2000s had ETAs of some form).

I wasn't sure...you've mentioned Seiko/Orient being in-house before and about Citizen being vertically integrated when you were talking about your new watch so I didn't know if that was a thing for you. I'm the same but I do like to know what movement is in the watch for future reference when taking it in for service. That way, wherever you take it, you can slyly let them know you're not clueless...basically like dealing with car mechanics, heh.
 

Is there a helpline to try and talk you out of watch purchases?

Tissot Seastar 2000 professional ?



I'm telling myself it's too big and I should wait for a sub 44mm case.


I love the Sea Star...

If you look around you can get these Christopher Ward watches for around 500-600; I think they are terrific:


 
Not entirely sure what you mean with that comment... I'm gonna' guess and say have a look at what Oris offers...their Big Crown Pointer Date is in serious contention to be my next purchase if I faceplant off the top of the wagon again.

Or Muhle Glashutte, Ball, Hamilton...

Both of what you've listed are chrono's, though...so prices will reflect that in a mechanical.
I have no idea what you're talking about. Oh, then there's this...
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...bit like the fit birds thread here, innit?
 


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