2017/18 Wayne Rooney

[blueboy1945]

Honestly - In all my time supporting the club "swopping" Lukaku for Rooney - in that we've had games with him upfront this season when we had Rom last season - is the most depressing thing we've done because I genuinely thought we would kick on.

Can't really see the point fretting about Lukaku mate, he's no longer our player, and we all knew he would be virtually impossible to replace. None of that is Rooneys' fault, he is our player, and, at least to me, still looks well capable of doing a job for us. I suppose it's all about opinions and I respect yours @GrandOldTeam .

 

[marcus]

Honestly - In all my time supporting the club "swopping" Lukaku for Rooney - in that we've had games with him upfront this season when we had Rom last season - is the most depressing thing we've done because I genuinely thought we would kick on.

The club did not swap Lukaku for Rooney, Lukaku was leaving no matter what, Rooney came as a separate deal & was not a direct replacement for Lukaku, Lukaku should of been replaced with another top striker.

To blame Rooney for our clubs poor form this season is unfair, it is the manager who has failed to sign a Lukaku replacement & use his players successfully who is to blame.

Rooney is not the player he used to be we all know that, however he can still be effective if used sparingly & in the correct positional play to maximise his undoubted ability as he is still capable of getting 10-15 goals a season for us which would be a considerable contribution from a player who deserves full support from the Everton fans.

 

[MikeH72]

Time will tell . Lukaku failed to score against Liverpool and failed to score again in CL . Scored in less than half of our games last season ........Just maybe we've sold Man U a dummy for £90m.......Time will tell !

Rooney has scored 4 in 15 this season and Lukaku has 11 in 12 so no, you are wrong.

 

[mkrudden]

I think if the Stoke goal hadn’t happened, people would be a bit more sour on him.

The hype was huge , the media frenzy was huge, but a lot of us didn’t buy into it.

I have to admit I was guilty of this too, but the Stoke goal really did suck a lot of people into the dream. The reality is, as we all know, that he’s pretty much done as a driving, effective force in the Premier League.

Every goal he scores will restart the debate, and people will constantly thinking this is the time he turns it back on. But the reality is that was going on for a while at United too.

I agree on this, he is done as a driving force but why can't he reinvent himself?

Because of the very nature of his early promise - the kid who had explosive pace over the first few yards - he is constantly been beaten with the stick of the natural ageing process.

I don't believe he can play up front. But he should be our number 1 player who sits behind the front man and looks to dictate - just like he did in that very game against Stoke.

It really doesn't help that DCL is the striker when Rooney isn't playing up top. And that's not to knock the lad but he just doesn't make enough channel runs, doesn't move the defenders about, doesn't hold the ball consistently well. All completely down I would imagine to the fact that he is a kid learning his trade.

With no pace around him, no target man, I just wonder what you (and others) are expecting of him at the age that he is.

And I also wonder my friend why, when he can't do those things, there is no consideration of the greater context.

 

[mkrudden]

Honestly - In all my time supporting the club "swopping" Lukaku for Rooney - in that we've had games with him upfront this season when we had Rom last season - is the most depressing thing we've done because I genuinely thought we would kick on.

Question: Had we brought in Giroud and Rooney for Lukaku + £30m, would you have been happy?

 

[Frang]

is it any coincidence that we re-sign this snail and the pace of the whole club goes into reverse on and off the pitch

 

[Frang]

Question: Had we brought in Giroud and Rooney for Lukaku + £30m, would you have been happy?

absolutely not.

 

[mkrudden]

is it any coincidence that we re-sign this snail and the pace of the whole club goes into reverse on and off the pitch

Sensationalist rubbish.

 

[APN_EFC]

I have got a revolutionary idea which nobody will listen to but anyway

- Build the team around Rooney, but tell him that he needs to play fast (he'll learn even at his age - he just needs good guidance and confidence, after his last few years of boring LvG and Mourinho)
- Make him mentor to Barkley
- Play him in between Davies and Barkley - i.e. Davies in midfield, Rooney in CAM and Ross as a floating striker 'false no9'

Make this team a free spirited, crazy English team at the core,

Pickford

Kenny - Keane - Holgate - Baines

Davies and Gana/Schneiderlin

Vlasic Rooney Lookman

Barkley or DCL

GYlfi is a back up for Rooney
Klassen for Davies
Mirallas for Vlasic or Lookman
Bolasie for Vlasic or Lookman

 

[APN_EFC]

I still think Rooney is going to be fine, but its just that the idea that he was supposed to be 'set free' and play with freedom and happiness is not yet being seen - I think because Koeman is a poor - man's LvG and Mourinho wannabe..

 

[Soap]

I have got a revolutionary idea which nobody will listen to but anyway

- Build the team around Rooney, but tell him that he needs to play fast (he'll learn even at his age - he just needs good guidance and confidence, after his last few years of boring LvG and Mourinho)
- Make him mentor to Barkley
- Play him in between Davies and Barkley - i.e. Davies in midfield, Rooney in CAM and Ross as a floating striker 'false no9'

Make this team a free spirited, crazy English team at the core,

Pickford

Kenny - Keane - Holgate - Baines

Davies and Gana/Schneiderlin

Vlasic Rooney Lookman

Barkley or DCL

GYlfi is a back up for Rooney
Klassen for Davies
Mirallas for Vlasic or Lookman
Bolasie for Vlasic or Lookman

This is where your notion falls flat. He can't play fast. He is finished.

Remember when everyone knew Gerrard was finished yet Kopites kept trying to pretend that he was important in the first 11?

We're now doing that. Rooney is killing us, just as he did with Utd in Van Gaal's last season.

Jose Mourinho knew it, Utd fans knew it, England fans know it...Wayne Rooney is a clogger.

 

[mkrudden]

This is where your notion falls flat. He can't play fast. He is finished.

Remember when everyone knew Gerrard was finished yet Kopites kept trying to pretend that he was important in the first 11?

We're now doing that. Rooney is killing us, just as he did with Utd in Van Gaal's last season.

Jose Mourinho knew it, Utd fans knew it, England fans know it...Wayne Rooney is a clogger.

Just isn't true, no matter how much you want it to be.

 

[MikeH72]

I still think Rooney is going to be fine, but its just that the idea that he was supposed to be 'set free' and play with freedom and happiness is not yet being seen - I think because Koeman is a poor - man's LvG and Mourinho wannabe..

It's because his body is not capable of it anymore. He looks uncomfortable and unnatural trying to do anything, you can spot it a mile off. Even those finishes that he used to love where the ball comes across his body and he'd sweep it into the far corner, he's tried it about 5 times this season and missed the ball every time, it's sad to witness.

 

[Soap]

Just isn't true, no matter how much you want it to be.

I want Rooney to be a clogger?

Wait, what?

Do you actually watch him? I just don't get why people still think he can play at the highest level? Delusion.

 

[APN_EFC]

This is where your notion falls flat. He can't play fast. He is finished.

Remember when everyone knew Gerrard was finished yet Kopites kept trying to pretend that he was important in the first 11?

We're now doing that. Rooney is killing us, just as he did with Utd in Van Gaal's last season.

Jose Mourinho knew it, Utd fans knew it, England fans know it...Wayne Rooney is a clogger.

Yeah I suppose so. I'm just TRYING to imagine the fairytale working - if he's the slow, unfit one, but everyone else is fast around him, can we carry him in the team as a good passer? You think that even his passing is slow?