Who should replace Frank Lampard?

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Frank has spent very little over the last year compared to his peers and he inherited a team in far worse form than we’re in right now. We’d attained just 6 points from August to January.

Even Allardyce would struggle to keep this set of players in this division. It’s not that they don’t try and don’t want to do well; it’s that they’re simply not good enough. Having said that, some did seem to stop giving their all once the abuse from the fans became particularly intense.

Either way these next few games are probably the most important in our club’s entire history.
 
We need a calm, big occasion, experienced head now. Can't risk any more young, learning their trade managers, the situation we are in (Lampard, Rooney, Ferguson, Gerrard). They'll be like rabbit in headlights a few games in. Not meaning we should employ a dinosaur, just an experienced manager.
 


Gareth Gibson said:
Frank has spent very little over the last year compared to his peers and he inherited a team in far worse form than we’re in right now. We’d attained just 6 points from August to January.

Even Allardyce would struggle to keep this set of players in this division. It’s not that they don’t try and don’t want to do well; it’s that they’re simply not good enough. Having said that, some did seem to stop giving their all once the abuse from the fans became particularly intense.

Either way these next few games are probably the most important in our club’s entire history.
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His record is worse than Benitez who spent even less money than Lampard.

Benitez was crap and deserved to be sacked and so does Lampard.
 
allen said:
If you're not panicking, you're not paying attention.

I'm not calling for Lampard's head - and I seem to be in the tiny minority in that - but I'm still panicking.
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This is incorrect.

If you're panicking despite not calling for Lampard's head, then I can only assume you're just not enjoying the team play atm, which I think is the problem for most fans.

I've used the metaphor of a basketball game in other threads. And the PL is like a slow motion basketball game. Everything is meaningless until the last period of the game.
 
davek said:
I dont think Moshiri has by and large bought players. The DoF's have. The problem with that sytem is the lack of responsibility it encourages. No one ever fully carries the can for the mess if one takes place. Look at us on here arguing about Lampard or Thelwell and who it was that bought players A/B/C...and it was the same with Brands and Silva and Brands and Ancelotti and Brands and Benitez.

If a manager has control of the spending we can see pretty quickly if they're up to snuff. There's no hiding place. IMO we've been sacking some managers because they have to deal with the players others bought - certainly Silva fits that bill.
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Personally I feel almost entirely opposite to this. One could surmise that we made bad signings under brands and thus say a DoF model is not for us. I think thats a very glossary look at the business of the club over that period, and or removes the examples being set by the rest of the division that do have such a model. Which is basically every competent club regardless of their resources with a sound recruitment strategy that rolls over window to window. I look at Brands and do think Moshiri pushed for competitiveness immediately. What in our club structure appears like PSV, from development, track record or in simply who we targeted in the market. A precedent Brands has had no problem being able to slot right back into. There was a youth recruitment ban over his tenure sure, but I dont think Moshiri really embraced a sell on model at any point or anything that made Brands an intriguing hire. Follow that with the very specific Carlo and Benitez signings that are unplayable at this point, and sinkholes on our books and the rationale for an empowered DoF become all the more evident over manager.

I don't think Thelwell is a very good DoF, and the squad lacks general talent, but the resources at his disposal have been slim, and the core of young players do not seem frank dependent and come with some better rationale than the majority of prior windows. There are some obvious misses, but the restraint be it Moshiri's pockets or him targeting lower transfer fees is a welcomed change. Of course there are exceptions, but the squad has appreciating youth that won't be net negatives broadly and should generate value to be reinvested. The table position is largely from years of poor windows. To me the clear exception to the current results is frankly an inexperienced manager in a situation too big for his know how, who likely wouldn't have the job without his on the pitch excellence. I can abstractly see logic in Thelwell's decisions, I see almost none with Frank. Not that I have longterm confidence in either. It's still not an indictment of the model.
 
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The issue is that the list of potential candidates above, and you could add another hundred names, will probably not make much of a difference. Everything at the club is rotten to the core now. It will take years to fix. I’m not sure whether Lampard should stay or go simply because I don’t think it will make any difference results wise
 

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