Who should replace Frank Lampard?

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Runub said:
The issue is that the list of potential candidates above, and you could add another hundred names, will probably not make much of a difference. Everything at the club is rotten to the core now. It will take years to fix. I’m not sure whether Lampard should stay or go simply because I don’t think it will make any difference results wise
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Lampard is a poor manager.
 

nonstripdzebra said:
Personally I feel almost entirely opposite to this. One could surmise that we made bad signings under brands and thus say a DoF model is not for us. I think thats a very glossary look at the business of the club over that period, and or removes the examples being set by the rest of the division that do have such a model. Which is basically every competent club regardless of their resources with a sound recruitment strategy that rolls over window to window. I look at Brands and do think Moshiri pushed for competitiveness immediately. What in our club structure appears like PSV, from development, track record or in simply who we targeted in the market. A precedent Brands has had no problem being able to slot right back into. There was a youth recruitment ban over his tenure sure, but I dont think Moshiri really embraced a sell on model at any point or anything that made Brands an intriguing hire. Follow that with the very specific Carlo and Benitez signings that are unplayable at this point, and sinkholes on our books and the rationale for an empowered DoF become all the more evident over manager.

I don't think Thelwell is a very good DoF, and the squad lacks general talent, but the resources at his disposal have been slim, and the core of young players do not seem frank dependent and come with some better rationale than the majority of prior windows. There are some obvious misses, but the restraint be it Moshiri's pockets or him targeting lower transfer fees is a welcomed change. Of course there are exceptions, but the squad has appreciating youth that won't be net negatives broadly and should generate value to be reinvested. The table position is largely from years of poor windows. To me the clear exception to the current results is frankly an inexperienced manager in a situation too big for his know how, who likely wouldn't have the job without his on the pitch excellence. I can abstractly see logic in Thelwell's decisions, I see almost none with Frank. Not that I have longterm confidence in either. It's still not an indictment of the model.
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Regardless of what happens elsewhere, the experience we have here was one before the DoF model was brought in of getting excellent value for money, and now to one of enormous waste.

And I'd disagree its been a success elsewhere with other clubs who are in our psoition. Where's the evidence that DoF can elevate clubs from the 'other 14' bracket to a so called elite team? Bigger clubs buy talent in and buy it without that much regard to a style. Others cant do that but have the "advantage" of a consistent style...so where is the evidence of the superiority of this model in action?

As I said earlier: Wolves have taken the different route of handing matters over to an industry specialist. They've done well with it for a club of that stature, and they'll find a way of getting though the mess left by Lage.

Our tradition has been to have a manager making big transfer calls. We should have stuck to that.
 
Runub said:
I think the jury is out on that. I think any manager would look poor looking after Everton right now
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Yup. The squad is nowhere near as good as it was when Ancelotti left in terms of attacking options. Replacements have been sub par and DCL has had a litany of injuries. Don’t really see how we get out of this mess without some serious recruitment.
 

Moomin said:
His record is worse than Benitez who spent even less money than Lampard.

Benitez was crap and deserved to be sacked and so does Lampard.
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you can hire doctor Frankenstein and splice Busby, Jock Stein & Howard Kendall into one super manager... we would still be 16th-17th.
But still, a good man-manager might be enough to save us for now. We're still havent played 19 games, so there's plenty of time to do something. Dyche might be the best option. Even now, the club/team he left behind is now pushing for promotion, and I refuse to believe it's all because of Vincent Kompany.
 
Jebus_lives said:
Seemed to be quite involved with the El Ghazi deal too, though I'm not sure if that was just paper chat.
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This is it. It mostly is. My point though was that itls not the owner but the DoF making the vast majority of transfer decisions in consultation only with the manager.

It would have been far better to have one person calling the shots: the manager. His job rest on successful recruitment.
 
FrenchDarrenBent said:
you can hire doctor Frankenstein and splice Busby, Jock Stein & Howard Kendall into one super manager... we would still be 16th-17th.
But still, a good man-manager might be enough to save us for now. We're still havent played 19 games, so there's plenty of time to do something. Dyche might be the best option. Even now, the club/team he left behind is now pushing for promotion, and I refuse to believe it's all because of Vincent Kompany.
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I don’t really know an awful lot about Dyche but we did see Eddie Howe, who we all laughed off as a potential candidate, come in at Newcastle and turn things round fairly quickly. Although he was able to buy some half decent players in January last season! The problem is Moshiri will go bonkers again and suggest some weird and wonderful names.
 
For those calling for Dyche, I see the impulse for a manager who can set us up tidy and protect the club from losses, but I would suggests Pepe Bordalas as a more intriguing hire in the same vein, who may have a little more progressivism. Dyche I think might save us from a drop initially but I see no reason over time we wouldn't repeat Burnley's fate. And personally I worry about him politically at our club. That his hard headedness could become volatile behind closed doors does not seem implausible.

If you look at Bordalas's history with Getafe he was extremely astute in playing the bigger clubs and mustering results with matchup dependent tactics. Broadly his squads were defensive minded with selective counters and intelligent pressing but with moments where they could open up matches. We'd protect dropping points I suspect but also could grow from that into a more formidable side. And after his short stint at Valencia going poorly (for a lot of reasons beyond himself) I think he may look us at a viable option.
 

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