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Wigan Athletic 1-1 Everton. 4th Feb at 15.00.

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Kay20 said:
Mr. Dependable had a series of several bad passes today. That's not dependable.

I'm not yelling "Gibson out!" like others, but I do think he hits the bench when Rodders is back.
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What happened to the non-knee jerk reaction on players?!!
 
davek said:
This.

The word after the City win was that he provided the platform so Felli could shine. No Felli masterclass = Gibson is the scapegoat.
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yep , he gets the best out of fellaini . i think with gibson fellaini the othermidfeilders have a big task to get into the center of our team .... and even then only rodwell osman should be in there instead or cahill or heitinga in an emergancy.NOT PHIL NEVILLE , hes my 3rd choice right back and 2nd choice left back and thats it.

i just think with fellaini bossing it like he was , with gibson covering , we had the pace of donovan and pienaar on the wing (drenthe as an option ) , why not put 2 up top with jeli ( a big lad) and straq ( strong target man) and be a right handful all over the park. the neville sub was a disaster and an oportunity missed.
 
Toffe3m4n said:
It's not the end of the world.

You could tell Wigan were well up for it from the 1st minute and they played some really good, lively football. Credit to them, typical "we're bottom of the league so we need to go for it at home" performance.

We laboured a little, yeah, but our football in general was intricate and technically better all-round. Much of that is owed to Pienaar, and we look a different team with him in it. Great game from him.

Vic as an impact sub is how he should be utilised permanently from now on, imo.

We weren't under the cosh at any point today, and their goal was very fortunate. Again, no need to panic imo.
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This. Way too much knee-jerking going on. I think Wigan deserve great credit and we were desperately unlucky to go behind. We were poor second half but I think we'll improve yet. Having said that I facepalmed when Neville came on. There was one player who we could have brought on that would have helped us less than Cahill would have and it was Phil Neville. I really think it would be more convenient for everyone concerned if he was to be "unavailable" for selection for whatever reason. I really don't care. If there is one thing I am 100% against as regards to Moyes, it is his inclusion of Phil Neville.

I'm gutted but there are genuine green shoots shown in the signing of Pienaar. Once he gets Baines back to his best our left flank will be formidable again and the football got noticeably better. I think second half we were understandably tired from three games (two big ones) in 8 days. However, against Chelsea I wouldn't be surprised if we got something.
 

Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian said:
Is it just me that puts their goal down to the bounce ?

Pip gave Tim a Googlie and bamboozled him, he was going in exactly the right place to catch it then when it bounced it turned.
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He's meant to be a goalkeeper tho mate, his primary attribute is his reactions and he can't react properly to a ball travelling at two miles an hour.
 
davek said:
What happened to the non-knee jerk reaction on players?!!
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I didn't say I wanted him out of our squad FFS!

If Rodders is injured, Gibbo still plays!!!!

If Rodders is back, he gets the starting spot as he would if he wasn't injured.
 
Gibson is definately the weak link. Like I said he's useful to have now that we have injuries. But Rodwell is just on another level to him. Jack's just an all round better player Physically and technically.
 
kenada_blue said:
Neville and Heitinga can do that though.

Fellaini goes box to box. He's back defending and attacking. Gibson so far just ponders, passes simple - misplaces a few. Then pops up outside the box twice in a game.

Rodwell needs to come back swiftly IMO. He can let Felli do what he does as well as actually getting involved himself, bombing forward (if Moyes lets him). I almost never gives the ball away either. I can only think of that poor back pass he did to Distin against Sporting a few seasons back..other than that, I cant.
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1/ I've never been convinced of the Fellaini/Rodwell axis in m/f

2/ Heitinga has proven unreliable in this role and has found some form at CB...leave him be

3/ we need to give Gibson time to settle and see what we have/dont have.
 

Gibson was nowhere near as bad as some people are making out. He was by no means our worst player. FFS give the guy a chance, he's played what 5 games? Centre Midfield is a difficult position to play as it is and Gibson is used to playing with much better players around him. Give him time. Do people remember when Fellaini first joined and everyone was saying he is gash, never worth 15m etc...? Now he's our best player! Well he's not in the same class but personally I think he will prove to be a very shrewd signing, especially given the outlay.
 
davek said:
1/ I've never been convinced of the Fellaini/Rodwell axis in m/f

2/ Heitinga has proven unreliable in this role and has found some form at CB...leave him be

3/ we need to give Gibson time to settle and see what we have/dont have.
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I think the Rodwell/Fellaini partership is our best. I can remember seeing one particular match with them two and thinking that with better players around them it could be one of the best in the league.
 
I saw the goal quite clearly, from the scorers angle, and the bounce was horrible

My problem today was neville, why bring him on, i thought we were gna be positive, HOWEVER as on radio city, drenthe doesnt seem to have a good attitude when he doesnt start

Straq looked shattered but if moyes didnt play him im sure the fans would have flipped.

It was the right formation to start, the only problem i had was distin claiming his spot back instantly when duffy has dome a better job than him recently. Plus heitinga and distin dont look like a good partnership
 

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