dutchblue54
Player Valuation: £20m
we could be amazing on the counter attack with him Lindstrom and N Diaye. So Dyche can play his low block 4-4-1-1 lol and we hit each team on the break
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we could be amazing on the counter attack with him Lindstrom and N Diaye. So Dyche can play his low block 4-4-1-1 lol and we hit each team on the break
FTY
Player Valuation: £80m
Could you be arsed to type all that when you know not one person is gonna read it allOh dear I totally disagree
1: You've taken a stance beyond reality about Beto & a magical £12mil payment that has (not) appeared out of the blue. Also claiming mismanagement regarding his signing
You're painting that as a likely picture when it is massively unlikely, not even worth considering, it would be so bizarre.
2: To compare goals scored decades apart, some in poor sides and some in excellent teams
3: Ferguson, Johnson, Yakubu and Lukaku walk into this team.
Ferguson was in a poor team for many years, overused and led to him picking up numerous injuries. The only light in the team and a talisman of hope in dark times.
Johnson was monitored by the refs after Wenger called him out for diving--at the time there was a youtube showing clear penalties not given. Again, not in a top side.
Yakubu was top class but for a bad injury. His first season he was a goal machine. Not trusted to start regular games after his injury (sub games affect your disproportionate stats) but went out and scored double figures elsewhere in England, should never have been sold.
Lukaku top class.
I dont know your age of course but I dont think you saw Yakubu, Ferguson or Johnson for us. All top players, far better than our Centre forwards today. Not even a comparison.
4: Amokachi cost £3mil and was signed by Mike Walker the worst Everton manager of all time. You're right that was a big fee back then but it was Mike Walker who signed him. Hardly a relative example so i didnt mention him.
Beattie £6mil at a time when others were going for multiples of that -- 4.5x was spent on Rooney for example. Certainly not a huge fee in the market at the time and was not considered to be a top signing by the fans. Certainly little excitement for this signing
5: The forwards I listed from other teams, I wasnt trying to say they would all score 15 goals, maybe ive misworded by post.
What i was saying is that we have arguably the 5th worst starting centre forward in the league in terms of goal output -- take any of the starters from the 14 teams listed and theyre (i believe) far more likely to score more than DCL.
The team defensive numbers may be 4th best but the attacking output is dreadful. Even having the 8th best centre forward would propel us up the league.
We wont get anywhere with the likes of Maupay, Beto & DCL. There is no point in keeping them, none.
I actually think many posters are insane for disagreeing that we should sell them and sign a top starter....yet wanted Godfrey, Keane and Holgate gone
Why would Keane, Godfrey & Holgate sales be welcome but not DCL, Maupay and Beto?
Its madness.
If we had a £50mil budget then we can have more choices than if we had a low budget. Thats what im saying.
Ferguson, David, Beier for example may be hard to entice but having a decent budget gives us more hope than having zero budget (Beto) a low budget (Maupay) or developing a £1.5mil youth signing (DCL).
I think it would be tremendously challenging to sign a worse player than DCL, Beto and Maupay combined with that budget -- we dont need to spend all of it either.
Hopefully this is true & Brentford move on Maupay after the Thiago injury.
Calafiore also off to Arsenal
I didnt mean that. I meant those 14/15 premier league teams teams ALL have at least one superior and more effective starter compared with our players.
We have one of the worst forward groups in the division.
Why the youth aged jokes? I was one of the first if not the first to want a 29 year old Tarkowski.
Thelwell has the right idea, when he has money aim for younger players...when he doesnt (Beto) he tries to spend as little as possible on older players.
Seems like im ahead of the curve by many years. Thats not be talking nonsense, ive had that view for many years when weve seen other clubs follow the same path while we have struggled for not adopting the strategy.
Luckily Thelwell seems to be following a strategy which involves younger signings.
Beto rubbish, DCL ineffective in terms of goals.
Id be disappointed if Chermiti wasnt better than both by the end of next season. Its a very low bar.
Yakubu.
Johnson 11 Ferguson 11 Saha got 13, Rideout 14
Look at how many chances those players got and the circumstances of the teams they were in compared with today.
Surely you wouldnt have DCL over any of them?
Lukaku
Yakubu
Saha
Ferguson
Johnson
Rideout
DCL
….bit of a mixed bag on Leeds forum. After watching him myself I can understand why many of their fans are frustrated with him although to be fair, many say he’s a talent;
Blue_Eagle
Player Valuation: £6m
And then they pass it to Beto...we could be amazing on the counter attack with him Lindstrom and N Diaye. So Dyche can play his low block 4-4-1-1 lol and we hit each team on the break
Smiley face.Oh dear I totally disagree
1: You've taken a stance beyond reality about Beto & a magical £12mil payment that has (not) appeared out of the blue. Also claiming mismanagement regarding his signing
You're painting that as a likely picture when it is massively unlikely, not even worth considering, it would be so bizarre.
2: To compare goals scored decades apart, some in poor sides and some in excellent teams
3: Ferguson, Johnson, Yakubu and Lukaku walk into this team.
Ferguson was in a poor team for many years, overused and led to him picking up numerous injuries. The only light in the team and a talisman of hope in dark times.
Johnson was monitored by the refs after Wenger called him out for diving--at the time there was a youtube showing clear penalties not given. Again, not in a top side.
Yakubu was top class but for a bad injury. His first season he was a goal machine. Not trusted to start regular games after his injury (sub games affect your disproportionate stats) but went out and scored double figures elsewhere in England, should never have been sold.
Lukaku top class.
I dont know your age of course but I dont think you saw Yakubu, Ferguson or Johnson for us. All top players, far better than our Centre forwards today. Not even a comparison.
4: Amokachi cost £3mil and was signed by Mike Walker the worst Everton manager of all time. You're right that was a big fee back then but it was Mike Walker who signed him. Hardly a relative example so i didnt mention him.
Beattie £6mil at a time when others were going for multiples of that -- 4.5x was spent on Rooney for example. Certainly not a huge fee in the market at the time and was not considered to be a top signing by the fans. Certainly little excitement for this signing
5: The forwards I listed from other teams, I wasnt trying to say they would all score 15 goals, maybe ive misworded by post.
What i was saying is that we have arguably the 5th worst starting centre forward in the league in terms of goal output -- take any of the starters from the 14 teams listed and theyre (i believe) far more likely to score more than DCL.
The team defensive numbers may be 4th best but the attacking output is dreadful. Even having the 8th best centre forward would propel us up the league.
We wont get anywhere with the likes of Maupay, Beto & DCL. There is no point in keeping them, none.
I actually think many posters are insane for disagreeing that we should sell them and sign a top starter....yet wanted Godfrey, Keane and Holgate gone
Why would Keane, Godfrey & Holgate sales be welcome but not DCL, Maupay and Beto?
Its madness.
If we had a £50mil budget then we can have more choices than if we had a low budget. Thats what im saying.
Ferguson, David, Beier for example may be hard to entice but having a decent budget gives us more hope than having zero budget (Beto) a low budget (Maupay) or developing a £1.5mil youth signing (DCL).
I think it would be tremendously challenging to sign a worse player than DCL, Beto and Maupay combined with that budget -- we dont need to spend all of it either.
Hopefully this is true & Brentford move on Maupay after the Thiago injury.
Calafiore also off to Arsenal
I didnt mean that. I meant those 14/15 premier league teams teams ALL have at least one superior and more effective starter compared with our players.
We have one of the worst forward groups in the division.
Why the youth aged jokes? I was one of the first if not the first to want a 29 year old Tarkowski.
Thelwell has the right idea, when he has money aim for younger players...when he doesnt (Beto) he tries to spend as little as possible on older players.
Seems like im ahead of the curve by many years. Thats not be talking nonsense, ive had that view for many years when weve seen other clubs follow the same path while we have struggled for not adopting the strategy.
Luckily Thelwell seems to be following a strategy which involves younger signings.
Beto rubbish, DCL ineffective in terms of goals.
Id be disappointed if Chermiti wasnt better than both by the end of next season. Its a very low bar.
Yakubu.
Johnson 11 Ferguson 11 Saha got 13, Rideout 14
Look at how many chances those players got and the circumstances of the teams they were in compared with today.
Surely you wouldnt have DCL over any of them?
Lukaku
Yakubu
Saha
Ferguson
Johnson
Rideout
DCL
It's been nominated for the booker prize.
Tony101
Player Valuation: £10m
He went to Leicester not sure how many he scored. He came back to the prem with Blackburn and scored 17.
14_dollars
Player Valuation: £10m
I’m surprised that so many Leeds fans can type in English.
JLW
Player Valuation: £60m
When you have six fingers on each hand i guess its easier to get around the keyboard.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
You dont understand how balance sheets work i see.
Not surprised.
Is it nappy changing time?
He got double figures at Leicester as well. 11 in 20 games.
Amazing to read that posters disagree that he walks into our team if he was from this era.
He was absolute quality.
I agree on the Yak. If I had a choice between prime Lukaku and Prime Yak. I’d go Yak all day long. Loved him, I really thought he was going to be our next true legend, he would have stayed back then as well. Not like Lukaku who thinks the world owes him a favour.
dutchblue54
Player Valuation: £20m
hahaha. depending on the outlook of our central striker position i would not be surprised if N'Diaye is used in that position in certain games. Certainly in games where we are going to sit back. Come on FREE WILLY
Eggsyblueskin
Player Valuation: £40m
Not really , genetically the East of the country is more English than the West .
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