did we compete with Chelsea and city on transfers ever.
Point is any time Moyes spent big moment relative to his budget it very rarely worked out .
He is not what we need now .
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Point is any time Moyes spent big moment relative to his budget it very rarely worked out .
He is not what we need now .
Ihaters
Player Valuation: £35m
Sorry mate, I think I am missing something.
I don't get how relative to his budget should equate to expecting a decent striker?
One manager spends 90% of a £10m budget, but another spends 50% of a 100m budget, there's a clear bias as to who's most like to get a decent player surely?
At a time when 50m+ was being spent on players, we are quoting less than 10m signings as big money signings and bemoaning 8th - 5th place finishes.
We finished above big spending teams on many occasions under Moyes despite not having a decent striker.
I feel I should re-iterate though... I am not advocating his return either, just defending his record with us
My original point was that he did not improve strikers. For example Beattie and Johnson scored more at Southampton and palace than for us. Moyes had his strengths. Getting strikers to score goals was not 1 of them.Sorry mate, I think I am missing something.
I don't get how relative to his budget should equate to expecting a decent striker?
One manager spends 90% of a £10m budget, but another spends 50% of a 100m budget, there's a clear bias as to who's most like to get a decent player surely?
At a time when 50m+ was being spent on players, we are quoting less than 10m signings as big money signings and bemoaning 8th - 5th place finishes.
We finished above big spending teams on many occasions under Moyes despite not having a decent striker.
I feel I should re-iterate though... I am not advocating his return either, just defending his record with us
Ihaters
Player Valuation: £35m
Can't argue with that, Cahill was pretty good mind but overall, don't disagree with the above at all, it's the all too often thrown around 'big money signings' comment that I can't agree with.
dannyboy
Player Valuation: £60m
No one ever got those strikers scoring again though. I think when it comes to players like Beattie and Johnson they have purple patches in their career and that doesn´t last very long. Yakubu scored 20 goals when he first arrived, I think any quality striker would´ve done well in a Moyes team from 2008 onward.
he is better than what we have now ,which isn't really saying much but he is and that's from somebody that wasn't fond of his last few years.
Still wouldn't bother giving him the job, doubt he would accept a contract for just a few Months anyway.
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
DickRitchie214
Player Valuation: £5m
Defending his record with us is like wishing America was great again. So much has changed in top flight football in the past 10 years that it's a different time. It took City almost 4 years to right the ship from their will they/won't they be relegated era. Yet many of you expect Everton to do it by November. I simply don't get it.Sorry mate, I think I am missing something.
I don't get how relative to his budget should equate to expecting a decent striker?
One manager spends 90% of a £10m budget, but another spends 50% of a 100m budget, there's a clear bias as to who's most like to get a decent player surely?
At a time when 50m+ was being spent on players, we are quoting less than 10m signings as big money signings and bemoaning 8th - 5th place finishes.
We finished above big spending teams on many occasions under Moyes despite not having a decent striker.
I feel I should re-iterate though... I am not advocating his return either, just defending his record with us
Before you misinterpret where I'm coming from, some of my beliefs:
-Silva is beyond stubborn
-the 4-2-3-1 is a garbage formation
-the set piece problem is unacceptable
Also:
-Coleman, Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson have to go
-we should be taking advantage of the skills and quality the team has rather then stifling their possibilities
-not having a healthy/presumed starting midfield for more than ONE HALF of football in 8 games isn't Silva's fault; not having any depth is on Brands
Would it be so much to ask that fans trust in the process? At worst, take the time needed to find the manager Brands wants - which btw none of us know instead of sigh, another ludicrous emotional reaction. I've seen a lot of criticism leveled at Silva re: doing the same thing over & over again and expecting different results is the definition of insanity. So why isn't that applied to Everton's managerial revolving door of the past 6 years? Mind-boggling.
alvinh
Player Valuation: £6m
I largely agree with you and unless the wheels come off completely favour sticking with Silva until the summer and a better chance to take stock. The thought of going back to Moyes fills me with despair, it would send a very negative message about the club and it's ambitions.
The squad still reflects the last short term appointment as well as the wishes of RK and RM before him. That's not on Silva, but it is his job to deal with it as best as he can.
The proviso therefore is the wheels stay on. Support for the manager is hemmoragging, once that reaches critical mass it's almost impossible to bring it back and it may already be too late. People don't want jam tomorrow, especially when they are sitting in the stadium miserable at what's on the pitch.
Silva needs immediate results or it doesn't matter what the medium and long term implications, he will have to go.
Gwladys Nights
Player Valuation: £15m
I love the guy but it would be about the most regressive move we could make. Big, big no from me.
JobForTheMoyes
Player Valuation: £40m
It took them longer as they let Mark Hughes “lay the foundations”
JobForTheMoyes
Player Valuation: £40m
Maybe we should keep Silva and make Moyes Director of Football!
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