Yannick Bolasie

[Tubey]

I'm not arsed about idiots celebrating it.

I don't think there are that many.

What does baffle me is people who think that he won't be a miss.

Regardless of what you think of him (and a lot of the 'hate' - for lack of a better term - is based on pre-conceived ideas because of his price tag), he's been our best and most consistent attacker this season.

Please tell me, these people who are saying he won't be missed, who do they think is ready or has shown the form/ability in the past 12 months to step up and create for us?

Del? - Sorry, but he played like a kid the other night. And I don't mean like Tom Davies either. I know he has all the talent and potential but I'm not convinced he's got the aptitude. Hopefully he proves me wrong.

Kev? - Thought he looked sharper as the game wore on the other day, but when has he ever been consistent either?

Barks? - Who knows what's up with the lad.

Lennon... Cleverley...

While Bolasie is by no means the greatest of players he is a player that the manager likes, trusts and most importantly fits the system and pressing style.

The positive on this is that we will have to find a different way of playing, so hopefully his replacement(s) step up and it sparks us into life.

Other than that, this just extenuates the need to have signings ready to come in in the first two weeks of Jan.

That's not a real argument. It's the same fallacy as saying "who could we replace Moyes/Martinez/<Insert Manager Here> with - you find a way and move on. If Bolasie was a top tier player like Messi, yeah you'd have a point, but he's not.

As for "form/ability in the past 12 months" - Bolasie hasn't had that either, and you can't compare the form of any other winger because they quite simply haven't been played in the same way Bolasie has; in a system set up to get him the ball.

I genuinely would prefer Deulofeu and Mirallas to Bolasie, and honestly in a different system I'd prefer Lennon - I think we can set up more effectively than hoofball to a crap winger and start not playing like the donkeys we've been in recent months.

He won't be a miss, because we'll change the way we play and bring better players to fit a system in January and the summer. And even if he was a key player, which he really isn't, he would have been out for over a month anyway soon and we've already blown any chance of achieving anything notable in the league anyway, so we may as well take this time to rebuild.

 

[Nil Satis Niasse Optimum]

I hope not, his pace is his best attribute

Isn't it his only attribute?

 

[Tubey]

Why because supporters supposedly support?

No, because you're saying the club should not be critiqued, every supporter should shut off their brain and be happy clappers, or they are not Evertonians.

Just no.

 

[Tubey]

Only player we currently have who can put a decent ball into the box, not his fault we tend to have only 1 player in the box who won't attack any ball.

Haha what?

Have you seen him cross?

 

[blueblue]

A big loss for us. I wish him well and his recovery is speedy.

 

[BlueToff]

That's not a real argument. It's the same fallacy as saying "who could we replace Moyes/Martinez/<Insert Manager Here> with - you find a way and move on. If Bolasie was a top tier player like Messi, yeah you'd have a point, but he's not.

As for "form/ability in the past 12 months" - Bolasie hasn't had that either, and you can't compare the form of any other winger because they quite simply haven't been played in the same way Bolasie has; in a system set up to get him the ball.

I genuinely would prefer Deulofeu and Mirallas to Bolasie, and honestly in a different system I'd prefer Lennon - I think we can set up more effectively than hoofball to a crap winger and start not playing like the donkeys we've been in recent months.

He won't be a miss, because we'll change the way we play and bring better players to fit a system in January and the summer. And even if he was a key player, which he really isn't, he would have been out for over a month anyway soon and we've already blown any chance of achieving anything notable in the league anyway, so we may as well take this time to rebuild.

First point - I completely agree. It's happened before (with better players) and it'll happen again. We move on and adapt.

What I'm not convinced by is his replacements. They proved last season they weren't up to scratch (in the second half of it at least) and have done nothing to prove otherwise so far this season. I hope if, for example, Del now gets a run in the team then he does well, but I have my doubts.

Even if/when Bolasie hasn't played well this season, he has offered us something going forward and always created chances - and good ones at that. Del, when he's played badly, has been completely anonymous, as in not done anything. Same with Kev and Lennon.

He will be a miss as he is a threat who creates chances.

That being said, we do - as you rightly say - have to now find another way of playing without him, and the first team players are a must.

 

[BlueToff]

Haha what?

Have you seen him cross?

Better than Deulofeu's 'stand still on the touchline, get tackled and fall over' tactic he's been employing in his recent appearances.

 

[GerryandthePaceMerchants]

We'll miss him being an outlet. Hope it does't affect his pace

 

[Tubey]

First point - I completely agree. It's happened before (with better players) and it'll happen again. We move on and adapt.

What I'm not convinced by is his replacements. They proved last season they weren't up to scratch (in the second half of it at least) and have done nothing to prove otherwise so far this season. I hope if, for example, Del now gets a run in the team then he does well, but I have my doubts.

Even if/when Bolasie hasn't played well this season, he has offered us something going forward and always created chances - and good ones at that. Del, when he's played badly, has been completely anonymous, as in not done anything. Same with Kev and Lennon.

He will be a miss as he is a threat who creates chances.

That being said, we do - as you rightly say - have to now find another way of playing without him, and the first team players are a must.

But you're comparing apples and oranges. When Deulofeu, Mirallas and Lennon have played opposite Bolasie, they haven't had the same role - we played everything through Bolasie, so it's just not a comparable situation.

And the fact is that playing that way has seen us perform even worse than we did under Martinez recently, and that's largely due to Bolasie in my view.

You make threats and chances in a different and - let's be honest - more effective way when Bolasie isn't there. We saw that immediately against United when he went off, and we improved 100%.

That's why I'm saying we won't miss him, as we won't miss being as bad as we were with him as our attacking outlet. We could barely get any worse - we were having one shot every two games; as soon as he went off, we had like four in twenty minutes.

 

[Tubey]

We'll miss him being an outlet. Hope it does't affect his pace

We won't though, because we've been gash with him as that outlet! We'll just find and use other ones instead of "hit and hope".

 

[BlueToff]

But you're comparing apples and oranges. When Deulofeu, Mirallas and Lennon have played opposite Bolasie, they haven't had the same role - we played everything through Bolasie, so it's just not a comparable situation.

And the fact is that playing that way has seen us perform even worse than we did under Martinez recently, and that's largely due to Bolasie in my view.

You make threats and chances in a different and - let's be honest - more effective way when Bolasie isn't there. We saw that immediately against United when he went off, and we improved 100%.

That's why I'm saying we won't miss him, as we won't miss being as bad as we were with him as our attacking outlet. We could barely get any worse - we were having one shot every two games; as soon as he went off, we had like four in twenty minutes.

In the same breath it's not like we improved at all when Del came on and Bolasie was still on the other side (albeit injured) and we were in the same system.

We improved when we went to 2 up top.

But yeh I can understand that point - we haven't been great. Well, we've been abysmal. But I don't think that Bolasie was the source of our issues.

 

[Lanolin]

First point - I completely agree. It's happened before (with better players) and it'll happen again. We move on and adapt.

What I'm not convinced by is his replacements. They proved last season they weren't up to scratch (in the second half of it at least) and have done nothing to prove otherwise so far this season. I hope if, for example, Del now gets a run in the team then he does well, but I have my doubts.

Even if/when Bolasie hasn't played well this season, he has offered us something going forward and always created chances - and good ones at that. Del, when he's played badly, has been completely anonymous, as in not done anything. Same with Kev and Lennon.

He will be a miss as he is a threat who creates chances.

That being said, we do - as you rightly say - have to now find another way of playing without him, and the first team players are a must.

You can defend Bolasie without just hammering other players you know. Bolasie has done well in patches this season, but I would say he's not hit the heights that Barkley, Deulofeu, Lennon and Mirallas have hit for us in the past. And yet over the last couple of weeks you've slated all of those players in order to push your point about Bolasie. We need all of our players to be fit and firing in all honesty, and there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that - given the opportunity and the right system - the attacking players we have can be very effective.

 

[Baines' left foot]

We will most certainly climb up the table. It is very obvious that we will now do that.

 

[BlueToff]

You can defend Bolasie without just hammering other players you know. Bolasie has done well in patches this season, but I would say he's not hit the heights that Barkley, Deulofeu, Lennon and Mirallas have hit for us in the past. And yet over the last couple of weeks you've slated all of those players in order to push your point about Bolasie. We need all of our players to be fit and firing in all honesty, and there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that - given the opportunity and the right system - the attacking players we have can be very effective.

I'm not hammering other players.

I'm stating the fact that those players you referenced have not played well this season.

I like Del. I like Kev. I've got plenty of time for Lennon and Ross is boss.

But, none of them have performed this season, and none of them have played as well as Bolasie has for us (and I'm by no means saying Bolasie has been world class or anything).

My concern is we are now left with exactly the same players we had for those positions last term. And in the last two months of last season we were just as bad going forward as we were at defending.

Even if it is Depay coming in in January, we desperately need fresh blood in that role.

 

[squonk]

No, because you're saying the club should not be critiqued, every supporter should shut off their brain and be happy clappers, or they are not Evertonians.

Just no.

nope he didn't say that at all unless he wrote it in invisible ink