Young EFC Players Out on Loan 2019-20

[TheBigIguana]

Have I posted differently,your having an argument with yourself.

Doesn't bode well does it.

As I said, I don't really know what you're saying.

 

[davids]

As I said, I don't really know what you're saying.

Decent enough player possibly no future at EFC, not complicated.

 

[Eggs]

...Dowell scores again for Wigan. Crucial goal in a crucial game, Charlton 1 Wigan 2.

 

[mightymoyes]

...Dowell scores again for Wigan.

Doin himself and us no harm with this good run of form

 

[mightymoyes]

Doin himself and us no harm with this good run of form

Oh and Wigan too!

 

[hktoffee]

Should get a decent fee for Dowell like £2m?

 

[mightymoyes]

Should get a decent fee for Dowell like £2m?

He's definitely worth more than that, suppose depends what the transfer market is like after covid

 

[MARK SMITH]

Wigan certainly can't afford him, unless we give them a generous deal with a high sell-on percentage.

 

[Kever10]

Bring him into the squad. He is 22. If we were after a 22 year old Attacking Midfider who was performing as he is in the championship, 5 goals in the last 6 games, more than half of the amount of goals our entire midfield unit has managed in the entire campaign, some would have no problem paying £15-20m for him.

He has that something you can't teach, and he can work on the rest under 1 of the best managers in World Football.

Some of you would rather give up on him and throw the pittance of a transfer fee we would receive and the tiny amount of wages we would save on 2 months wages of some aging Superstar whos only motivation to wear our shirt is the fat contract he will sit on till he retires or we release him.

Honestly baffles me.

 

[mightymoyes]

Bring him into the squad. He is 22. If we were after a 22 year old Attacking Midfider who was performing as he is in the championship, 5 goals in the last 6 games, more than half of the amount of goals our entire midfield unit has managed in the entire campaign, some would have no problem paying £15-20m for him.

He has that something you can't teach, and he can work on the rest under 1 of the best managers in World Football.

Some of you would rather give up on him and throw the pittance of a transfer fee we would receive and the tiny amount of wages we would save on 2 months wages of some aging Superstar whos only motivation to wear our shirt is the fat contract he will sit on till he retires or we release him.

Honestly baffles me.

Nah hardly.
Most would love to see him develop into a star with us and have been hoping/waiting for it for the last 6 years or so but we live in the real world and it's looking like his time is up for numerous reasons, not all of which are down to him.

 

[COYB75]

Give Dowell a 1 year contract extension and give him a chance. How many chances have Siggs, Iwobi, Bernard and Walcott had? I’ve lost count. We watch them game after game and pull our hair out. Dowell hasn’t had a fraction of their game time. What’s there to lose. We can all think of a bunch of world class goals this kid has scored. We’ll get very little if we try to sell him so let’s take a gamble.

 

[Kever10]

Nah hardly.
Most would love to see him develop into a star with us and have been hoping/waiting for it for the last 6 years or so but we live in the real world and it's looking like his time is up for numerous reasons, not all of which are down to him.

Let's be very generous and say he has had 6 years to prove himself. He was 16 back then, so hardly likely to be a starter, and he was coming through as we struggled at the back end of the Martinez era.

So let's look at the so called missed opportunities he has had since then.

For Everton, he has played some part of 4 games under 4 of our 7 different mangers.

40 games for Forrest under 2 different managers, scoring 10 goals.

16 games for Sheff Utd, scoring 2 as they achieved automatic promotion.

10 games for Derby, which is admittedly, the only spell that has been a failure.

And 11 games for Wigan, where he has scored 5.

That is 81 games and 17 goals, a goal every 4.7 games, for 5 teams under 9 different managers.

In the same time, we've had Sigurdsson play 110 games, scoring 22 goals, a goal every 5 games and Bernard play 65 games, scoring 5, a goal every 13 games.

Also, I'm pretty sure only 1 of Dowells goals was a penalty, the hat-trick goal for Forrest against Hull, which has helped bulk out Gylfis stats, even with his appalling record from the spot.

Like I say, if we were talking about signing a 22 year old with his potential and his numbers, everyone would be on board and would happily watch us spend millions to make it happen. He deserves a proper opportunity, and as far as I'm concerned, his loans have proved he is ready to try to make the step up.

I genuinely believe he cannot be any worse than what we have served up over the last 6 years since his debut, and I hope he gets the chance to prove it. We've had so many missed opportunities in the last few years, I really don't want us to miss another.

 

[COYB75]

Nice back up of your argument Kever10 . I like that you actually state facts rather than just say they’ve had their chance. Again we spent crazy money on Iwobi and co and for what? So a 1 year contract extension would cost a fraction of that. Come on guys let’s get behind the homegrown players and see what happens.

 

[mightymoyes]

Let's be very generous and say he has had 6 years to prove himself. He was 16 back then, so hardly likely to be a starter, and he was coming through as we struggled at the back end of the Martinez era.

So let's look at the so called missed opportunities he has had since then.

For Everton, he has played some part of 4 games under 4 of our 7 different mangers.

40 games for Forrest under 2 different managers, scoring 10 goals.

16 games for Sheff Utd, scoring 2 as they achieved automatic promotion.

10 games for Derby, which is admittedly, the only spell that has been a failure.

And 11 games for Wigan, where he has scored 5.

That is 81 games and 17 goals, a goal every 4.7 games, for 5 teams under 9 different managers.

In the same time, we've had Sigurdsson play 110 games, scoring 22 goals, a goal every 5 games and Bernard play 65 games, scoring 5, a goal every 13 games.

Also, I'm pretty sure only 1 of Dowells goals was a penalty, the hat-trick goal for Forrest against Hull, which has helped bulk out Gylfis stats, even with his appalling record from the spot.

Like I say, if we were talking about signing a 22 year old with his potential and his numbers, everyone would be on board and would happily watch us spend millions to make it happen. He deserves a proper opportunity, and as far as I'm concerned, his loans have proved he is ready to try to make the step up.

I genuinely believe he cannot be any worse than what we have served up over the last 6 years since his debut, and I hope he gets the chance to prove it. We've had so many missed opportunities in the last few years, I really don't want us to miss another.

I agree with you, it's just extremely unlikely at this stage if Brands and Ancelotti will.

 

[Kever10]

I agree with you, it's just extremely unlikely at this stage if Brands and Ancelotti will.

Here's hoping his form at Wigan and the complete rethink that our current squad needs, leads to a rethink and some opportunities to young players who could offer us some much needed strength in depth after shifting the expensive deadwood.