£40m Bid Made For Sigurdsson

[PITA]

Reading this thread would suggest that some indeed do care

I'm not saying that no-one cares that we might be playing £X. Rather we don't need to know whether each separate person cares.

 

[Pabbers]

Where did he get these mom awards you talk of ? Answer the question please...

And 1 bad game?

He was crap and lazy for ages and was dropped from the team.. hardly one game is it... lost his England place to Livermore lol ...

Just looka round, he was given man of match all over the place.

He was dropped for 1 game.....and even in that game he was brought on and improved us.

Lukaku also got dropped once.

Livermore playing for England, says more about England than is does Ross. The best central midfielder England have had was played left wing....

 

[Timak]

you do realise it is harder to create chances when your team are on the defensive for the most part right!?

You do realise that those are all players in the same team as him right?

 

[Papa Shango]

Of course the league becomes different. You are playing in a team that plays a different style of play and are playing against opposition that plays differently against you. As an attacker, at Swansea he is given time and space because teams tend to leave themselves more open. At Everton, he will have much less time and space because the opposition will sit deeper.

Some players are good enough to adapt their game to the changes, others aren't.

It's my opinion that Sigurdsson isn't good enough for the level we are at and are aspiring to reach. He will be taking less set pieces, so his chance creation will suffer straight away. He also won't have Llorente to aim for with his crosses (unless we buy someone similar), which was a huge part of his game last season.

If you don't see how the league becomes different depending on who you play for then I can't really help you.

I agree with most of this but...why would he be taking less set pieces?

Unless you mean we will get given less fouls than Swansea I don't see why that would be the case. If you are paying that much for him and its the biggest part of his game then you put him on everything.

 

[Nymzee]

Apparently Walshy is flying home tonight.

 

[Carlito]

There are better players out there at the sort of price that Sigurdsson is about to go for, but at least the club is over-spending on someone that will suit the functional, no-frills football that Koeman is introducing.

It's not how I'd choose to see it done, but I can appreciate the benefits of having a clear direction and sticking to it.

 

[Stuartisitc1878]

You'd think Everton would have to be very careful here. 8am news breaks that Sigi has stepped off the plane. Scarcely an hour later there's a £40m bid. From our perspective this needs to look like he's driving the decision to leave and a bid so soon after his action may look a bit suspicious.

you're spot on. Don't want to break the rules like that lot accross the park.
Everton (assuming King has quoted them word for word) have been quite clever in their statement. No bid today and no rejection today. That's pretty much all they've said.

 

[Paul Rideout]

Of course the league becomes different. You are playing in a team that plays a different style of play and are playing against opposition that plays differently against you. As an attacker, at Swansea he is given time and space because teams tend to leave themselves more open. At Everton, he will have much less time and space because the opposition will sit deeper.

Some players are good enough to adapt their game to the changes, others aren't.

It's my opinion that Sigurdsson isn't good enough for the level we are at and are aspiring to reach. He will be taking less set pieces, so his chance creation will suffer straight away. He also won't have Llorente to aim for with his crosses (unless we buy someone similar), which was a huge part of his game last season. The current Swansea setup is geared around him in order to get the best out of him, our setup won't be.

If you don't see how the league becomes different depending on who you play for then I can't really help you.

How did he get on when he was at Spurs? Who I believe were around 5th-7th at the time

 

[Toffeepot]

You do realise that those are all players in the same team as him right?

yes and he was their stand out player.... gana was villas and they went down...

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

Just looka round, he was given man of match all over the place.

He was dropped for 1 game.....and even in that game he was brought on and improved us.

Lukaku also got dropped once.

Livermore playing for England, says more about England than is does Ross. The best central midfielder England have had was played left wing....

...Leon Osman?

 

[b-rad]

you're spot on. Don't want to break the rules like that lot accross the park.
Everton (assuming King has quoted them word for word) have been quite clever in their statement. No bid today and no rejection today. That's pretty much all they've said.

If he's not on the plane you would assume he has permission/acceptance from the club to not be on the plane and therefore to talk to clubs, no?

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Did you read the article?

Yeah, he seems to think set pieces don't count. Interesting viewpoint, someone let Beckham know.

 

[Steve0]

Of course the league becomes different. You are playing in a team that plays a different style of play and are playing against opposition that plays differently against you. As an attacker, at Swansea he is given time and space because teams tend to leave themselves more open. At Everton, he will have much less time and space because the opposition will sit deeper.

Some players are good enough to adapt their game to the changes, others aren't.

It's my opinion that Sigurdsson isn't good enough for the level we are at and are aspiring to reach. He will be taking less set pieces, so his chance creation will suffer straight away. He also won't have Llorente to aim for with his crosses (unless we buy someone similar), which was a huge part of his game last season. The current Swansea setup is geared around him in order to get the best out of him, our setup won't be.

If you don't see how the league becomes different depending on who you play for then I can't really help you.

You think players get more space at better teams? It's an interesting proposition. One that both I and the facts disagree with but I respect your right to hold that belief.

I think he provided 4 assists to LLorente last year so it wasn't just him so probably not as big a deal as you originally though.

£40m is a fair price. Liverpool spent nearly that on Carroll over 6 years ago and spent similar amount on a premiership flop this year.

Gylfi is a very good player who has performed brilliantly for 3 straight years now.

 

[AaronTheBlue]

Wouldn't surprise me if Swansea leaked the "rejected bid" to spin it their way. Then an "undisclosed" fee will be locked on the weekend and everyone will assume its over 40m.

Same thing happened with Williams, they tried to tell everyone it was like 20m until the truth came out. Either way, this is obviously getting done and properly pronto.

undisclosed fee will definitely happen to save face for both teams

 

[Piijt]