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£40m Bid Made For Sigurdsson

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Ya ... a typo is hilarious mate...

You'll be 'cryin' just like he was when you see some of his other posts in this thread...

For pure amazement and fun just ensure you're not near hot drinks or anyone can see your puzzled expression when you read his views.

Its like flicking a switch to the twilight zone.
 
Why are people saying we haven't spent on defence.... what about pickford and keane??... i would think they would significantly improve our defence which wasn't all that bad last season when u look at the goals conceded column .... we will add more defensive signings before kick off as well
 
We should walk away now and do nothing, leaving them with a disgruntled player who will vent his spleen against them.

Then go back the day before the window closes with the same offer, and see what they say then.

For as long as the deal is 'pending', with us still interested, the player has hope. If we quit negotiations now, it's possible he'll kick up merde goodstyle and force the issue...

Or we could just do the decent and honourable thing and negotiate the price
If we do as you say we are no better than that lot across the park
 
The question should really be...which is more sensible/logical;

A -- Adding 50mil Sigurdsson to our existing 10 attacking players
B -- Signing a huge upgrade on Williams to play with fellow new signings Pickford and Keane thus fixing the central defensive area.

Personally quite amazed if we don't get a super centre back as then it kind of defeats the purpose of Keane and Pickford when we play an absolute liability at centre back.

Williams is not and has never been an absolute liability. He was pretty decent last year actually. Not amazing, but not the carthorse that some people like to believe he is. I agree we could do with another centre back, but the idea that we were awful at the back last season is just mental.
 

The talk of big money was speculation. No one guaranteed anything.

I can argue for the sake of it buddy.

1. What's wrong with sell to buy? Every club sells players to generate funds unless you have a sugar daddy like Citch or Chelski.

2. If we have merely Williams/Jagielka and Baines after 31 August and that is deemed adequate by the manager and the director of football then so be it. Do you trust Koeman that is the point.

3. Part of negotiation. Running a football club is a business.

4. Moshiri has put £150m to the club right? You are no longer going to Goodison Park for home matches after 2021 or 2022? So you don't think the club are not in a better state/condition financially with him in charge?

5. This is purely an opinion by a poster. The manager and the board will decide whether they are overpaying an individual or not.

6. This is not FM or FIFA.

No-one guaranteed anything but even today people are amazed we have spent so much....but we haven't spent anything when looking at sales.

1 -- Sell to buy is actually fine as long as the correct areas are strengthened. For example, if we sold Lukaku but signed Rooney and Sandro to replace him and added to that with Pickford, Keane and a top centre back then weve massively improved defence but taken a gamble in attack, That's fine with me....but if we sign a midfielder instead of a centre back then were still gambling in attack and weak in defence....pointless

2 -- I don't think anyone would be happy with baines, Williams and jags starting with Cuco the clown at right back (which will happen if keane gets injured) as we will lose every game

3 -- No. He made that statement. He couldn't back it up. He failed.

4 -- We're not discussing anything other than the transfer window, In particular the Sigurdsson deal.

5 -- Its common sense if were overpaying....

6 -- We have scouts across the globe. he have scouts for all levels at the club. We have head and chief scouts. We also have Steve Walsh. if these guys cant find better players than Giroud and Sigurdsson for 80mil+ then that tells me the whole of football is a mess or our scouting network is.
 

1 -- No idea. But the fact is that Moshiri made that statement and so @davek is correct.

2 -- If we don't sign a top centre back then what is the point of signing Sigurdsson? Its pointless.

3 -- We have Rooney, Sandro, DCL, Mirallas, Lookman, Niasse who can all play CF We also have Lennon, Bolasie (injured), Dowell and Barkley as attacking players, If we go with 433 why haven't we sold some of these players when we need a total of 7. If we sign Giroud then that's 11 attackers and 7 who can play centre forward....DCL is 3rd choice, let him be an option.

4 -- We wont get 4th place with such a poor defence. Why spend 80mil+ on even more attackers instead of using that money to fix the defence

5 -- The defence could line up like this: Martina -- Jagielka -- Williams -- Connolly with just a couple of suspensions/injuries. The best we can put out is this Kenny -- Holgate -- Keane -- Baines and even that has no natural left sided centre back.

6-- Why call a former manager a clown? He achieved more in his first season than Koeman.

1. Moshiri is the man in charge so he can say what he wants.

2. Well that's the decision of the manager and the dof. They think signing Siguardsson is not pointless.

3. Niasse mate are you serious? None of the players you have mentioned above are target man. I honestly see we will sign a big forward before 31 August. Wait and see.

4. Sorry, I won't write the team off in July.

5. Again, it's not 31 August yet so we don't know if we are getting more defenders in.

6. Cos he is. No, Koeman has already done more than him at the club. He is repairing the damage/mess the fraud had done to the club in less than a year.
 
Or we could just do the decent and honourable thing and negotiate the price
If we do as you say we are no better than that lot across the park

You are joking!

We have made an offer. They have said sod off.

We DON'T have to kow-tow to their demands. It's a hard-nosed business game, which other teams play (probably far more than we have in recent seasons). ManU chasing Fellaini & Baines; Chelski chasing Stones; Citeh chasing Rodwell & Lescott. RS chasing VVD, with Aldridge doing all he can to swing it for them (by saying the player should go on strike, among other things). All played out in the media from their end.

We may ultimately walk away totally, leaving them with a disgruntled player.

But to suggest that if we do as I say we are no better than that lot across the park is insulting...
 
No-one guaranteed anything but even today people are amazed we have spent so much....but we haven't spent anything when looking at sales.

1 -- Sell to buy is actually fine as long as the correct areas are strengthened. For example, if we sold Lukaku but signed Rooney and Sandro to replace him and added to that with Pickford, Keane and a top centre back then weve massively improved defence but taken a gamble in attack, That's fine with me....but if we sign a midfielder instead of a centre back then were still gambling in attack and weak in defence....pointless

2 -- I don't think anyone would be happy with baines, Williams and jags starting with Cuco the clown at right back (which will happen if keane gets injured) as we will lose every game

3 -- No. He made that statement. He couldn't back it up. He failed.

4 -- We're not discussing anything other than the transfer window, In particular the Sigurdsson deal.

5 -- Its common sense if were overpaying....

6 -- We have scouts across the globe. he have scouts for all levels at the club. We have head and chief scouts. We also have Steve Walsh. if these guys cant find better players than Giroud and Sigurdsson for 80mil+ then that tells me the whole of football is a mess or our scouting network is.

Mate we have just signed Henry Onyekuru who was apparently wanted by about 70 other clubs, as well as adding about 5 new players to the under 23's from various clubs around Europe.

Yep, sounds like its in a right old mess!

Facts are, no matter what they do, there will always be some internet know all who thinks they know better, when in truth, they really don't.

Yes its fine for us all to have an opinion otherwise there would be no point in the forum, but the way some go on about things here, it's a wonder they have not been head hunted by the major european clubs, such is their apparent in depth knowledge of all things football.
 
No-one guaranteed anything but even today people are amazed we have spent so much....but we haven't spent anything when looking at sales.

1 -- Sell to buy is actually fine as long as the correct areas are strengthened. For example, if we sold Lukaku but signed Rooney and Sandro to replace him and added to that with Pickford, Keane and a top centre back then weve massively improved defence but taken a gamble in attack, That's fine with me....but if we sign a midfielder instead of a centre back then were still gambling in attack and weak in defence....pointless

2 -- I don't think anyone would be happy with baines, Williams and jags starting with Cuco the clown at right back (which will happen if keane gets injured) as we will lose every game

3 -- No. He made that statement. He couldn't back it up. He failed.

4 -- We're not discussing anything other than the transfer window, In particular the Sigurdsson deal.

5 -- Its common sense if were overpaying....

6 -- We have scouts across the globe. he have scouts for all levels at the club. We have head and chief scouts. We also have Steve Walsh. if these guys cant find better players than Giroud and Sigurdsson for 80mil+ then that tells me the whole of football is a mess or our scouting network is.
I'm 100 percent sure there are better players out there but they are unproven at prem level... Not that i believe our league is massively superior but it is more physical... Siggy is proven... Giroud is proven. Both Should be seriously looked at... Also both seem good professionals so wont harm the dressing room.
 

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