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£40m Bid Made For Sigurdsson

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I don't want to write him off too much, but I don't think you're far wrong.

Essentially it's a huge gamble that Koeman and Walsh think he can do something totally different in a different team, something he hasn't shown at all at Swansea and is in fact well, well below average at (like, in the bottom 20% for his position) - create in open play. Not only that, but they're gambling that he'll be able to do it at an elite level as the main playmaker for a team targeting CL.

That's an incredible gamble for 50m - to the extent that it's almost insane. They've obviously scouted him massively. They're obviously absolutely convinced, and have managed to convince Moshiri. They're backing their own convictions on this to a degree I'm honestly not sure I can compare to any other transfer. If it comes off, they're ballsy geniuses.

Set piece goals count just as much as open play goals.
 
We did all that before:

Corporate approches: we've always struck commercial deals and looked to find ways to have a loan facility. The fact that they were small time / overstretched the club is neither here nor there as it occurs now under Moshiri - he's struck a couple of deals on the training ground and shirt deal which is about as clear as mud in terms of how it benefits the club, and the recent Chinese bank facility is just another (larger) overdraft than Kenwright was able to cut...primarily because any PL club these days are seen as good risk - hence the Chinese interest in our game especially.

Buying players for the U23s: when didn't we do that before? Under both Moyes and Martinez the club bought youth to try and come up with first team players.

Movement on stadium plans: Kenwright had us further down the road at both KD and DK.

EitC - nothing to do with Moshiri or Kenwright (although started under the latter).

So now you want Kenwright back....... Or you are saying Bill was a better bet for a new stadium really.
 
We did all that before:

Corporate approches: we've always struck commercial deals and looked to find ways to have a loan facility. The fact that they were small time / overstretched the club is neither here nor there as it occurs now under Moshiri - he's struck a couple of deals on the training ground and shirt deal which is about as clear as mud in terms of how it benefits the club, and the recent Chinese bank facility is just another (larger) overdraft than Kenwright was able to cut...primarily because any PL club these days are seen as good risk - hence the Chinese interest in our game especially.

Buying players for the U23s: when didn't we do that before? Under both Moyes and Martinez the club bought youth to try and come up with first team players.

Movement on stadium plans: Kenwright had us further down the road at both KD and DK.

EitC - nothing to do with Moshiri or Kenwright (although started under the latter).

So now you want Kenwright back....... Or you are saying Bill was a better bet for a new stadium really.

Lads, please?

On topic....
 

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Well with the Torres example he was 26/27 years old, Spanish international and had scored winner in Euro finals. Seemed a touch expensive but probably a player worthy of that kind of fee.

You could say Bolasie with hindsight. It seemed ludicrously expensive at the time but the injury adds a false impression. If we end up paying £25m for a player who only manages 15 games for us that will be very bad value.
Ok so, if I even understand your ludicrous rules that seem to change with every further explanation, then Andy Carroll has to be the worst signing ever.

35m in 2011 for a total of 6 goals.
 
Set piece goals count just as much as open play goals.

Set pieces are hugely underrated. Chelsea were amazing at them last season and it maybe won them the title.

They HAVE to be in addition to open play though. Because open play still carries on regardless, and you end up being ineffective on open play and relying on set pieces, and at worst ending up with a passenger who contributes nothing. That gets you as far as West Brom.
 

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