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2024/25 Relegation Thread

johnjoeefc said:
I think looking at our points return we probably should be on 10 right now on balance for what we have deserved. I think it's still overall a bit below what I would have expected from the level of fixtures, I would have said 12-13 would be par. But hopefully we can go on a bit of a run now and make the points up.
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I think we had the Bournemouth game won and had DCL scored that chance early in the second half at Villa to make it 3-1 to us, we could have won there too. Both those games were down to the players not staying focused and seeing the game out, which is not too much to ask them to do. So that would be 6 points thrown away that would have us well in the top half of the table.
Its good to see Southampton struggling and getting tailed off, Ipswich have got some draws but in the long run might start to go the same way as Southampton. Wolves and Palace have to pick up or they`ll both get tailed off into a battle of 3 from 4 to go down. Its nice after the shocking way we started that we can have so many sides behind us and wake up Sunday morning off the back of what seemed a comfortable away win.
Roll on the points deductions to see where we really are in the standing.
 
Walken said:
Despite the usual cryarses having already awarded Ipswich the Luton fc fabulous spirit award, they look dreadful and have too many players not anywhere near this level. They make so many individual errors it's not possible to survive.

First bit of daylight with the relegation zone.
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They are garbage, a few decent players in there like Clarke and Delap (though he was a yard dog yesterday), but I will be shocked if they aren't relegated this season.
 

brieverton said:
I don't think they are better. I don't think they will ultimately end up in a scrap either but sometimes if a bad start runs past 10 games the pressure grows on everyone and it's hard to shake off. Then you are into sacking territory and whether you get a bounce or not.

There is always going to be one side pulled in that nobody expects but then each year the promoted sides seem to be very poor but I'd fancy Leicester to stay up.
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Leicester in 22/23 was the classic example. They had a similar start to Wolves, 1 point from their first 7-8 games so even then winning a couple and you're still barely above bottom 3. Another poor run at any stage of the season and you're then in serious danger of going down as ultimately happened to Leicester as they took 1 point from Feb-15th April 2023.

If they'd sacked Rogers at a similar time to this club sacked Lampard they'd have stayed up and probably comfortably.
 
Nice little cushion developing although it is still early days. Need to push on in the next games which are winnable. I expect some of the clubs around the bottom will be changing their manager soon which may or may not make a difference
 

royvernon39 said:
Wolves will come good. I especially like Cunha. I thought Ipswich were poor yesterday and cant see them surviving nor Soton.

So, its one from the usual list of Palace, Fulham, LCFC, NFFC, WHU and Manu.
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I tend to agree, but if they lose today (which I think most people would expect), they’re already in a position where they need to earn 7 more points than us just to catch us with near enough a quarter of the season gone. It’s a big mental challenge for them, and if they don’t quickly pick up 'expected' points, it could go south very quickly.

A lot has been made about their difficult fixture list, but for comparison, we got 15 points from the equivalent games last season.
 
Titus Bramble said:
I tend to agree, but if they lose today (which I think most people would expect), they’re already in a position where they need to earn 7 more points than us just to catch us with near enough a quarter of the season gone. It’s a big mental challenge for them, and if they don’t quickly pick up 'expected' points, it could go south very quickly.

A lot has been made about their difficult fixture list, but for comparison, we got 15 points from the equivalent games last season.
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It does puts so much pressure on other games that they think they should win. Is why we really have to try kick on and get the gap bigger, we do have a tough month in december but with hopefully thr takeover done by then we can keep a postive feeling here and pick up points. Go into the jan window with hope to bring some players in then just get out of this talk of relegation enjoy last season at goodison
 
Titus Bramble said:
I tend to agree, but if they lose today (which I think most people would expect), they’re already in a position where they need to earn 7 more points than us just to catch us with near enough a quarter of the season gone. It’s a big mental challenge for them, and if they don’t quickly pick up 'expected' points, it could go south very quickly.

A lot has been made about their difficult fixture list, but for comparison, we got 15 points from the equivalent games last season.
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Wolves have Palace and Southampton at home before next break. I think if O'Neil dosen't get at least 4 points (ideally six from their POV) that's him gone and then they get another manager in the next break.

I know they beat Man. City at home last year but would be a massive shock Wolves even getting a draw today with how bad they've been defending.
 

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