Cool_Blue
Player Valuation: £35m
We should make things at GP as uncomfortable as possible for everyone visiting. Stick the ref in a 4’ x 4’ changing cubicle, be as awkward as possible with the tv and press, have ‘accidentally’ cold water showers only in the visitors changing rooms, etc etc.
They didn't say that we didn't gain a sporting advantage. They said there was a sporting advantage.
This isn't something that is arguable, that's in what the words say. The sooner people stop misrepresenting that the better. Fans should understand what the punishment is for after all.
HowardsWay
Player Valuation: £6m
The problem with that is it requires a level of trust in the PL that their motivation is to make football competitive and prevent clubs folding. Their actions don't back that up after seeing the scab 6 avoid punishment, welcoming first russian money and then middle east, forcing through the newcastle sale. The extremely harsh punishment of Everton coinciding with their desperation to avoid independent regualtion only sows further seeds of mistrust, the only way that falls by the wayside is if city and chelsea recieve huge punishments.
Say that happens, which I doubt, and you have a draconian FFP system that ensures a monopoly of already established clubs such as liverpool (hence the support from certain memebers in here) and manu and no one else being able to get near them, the only alternative to allow obscene billionaires in to buy their way into competing.
Its an ugly picture and right now stuck inbetween the two systems the only one being punished is Everton, I would say misrust from Evertonians is absolutely warrented
Wat Tyler
Player Valuation: £70m
Well I hope you’re right because I don’t think we can take another 9 points deduction
Iana
Player Valuation: £1.5m
If the appeal body accepts our mitigation against the £19.5m then the 10 points deduction should be rescinded.
The new formula the PL developed in August 23 stated 6 points for the breach and 1 point for every £5m over the £105m limit.
If there is no overspend based on the mitigation being accepted on appeal then the technical breach must disappear as well.
It’s got to be either 0 points or 7/8 points(reflecting that not all mitigation is taken into consideration). The Player X £10m mitigation is half of the £19.5m.
We have been managed by a dysfunctional board under Kenwright and Moshiri regimes but we are being scapegoated here if we are being punished more than going into administration.
WestStandLower
Player Valuation: £1.5m
The way in which accounting years end and FFP or P&S monitoring periods likewise run meant that the season during which you could have been charged for your 21/22 numbers was indeed in season 22/23 but and here’s the big but the timing of the charges was dealt with by the commission itself who in effect ruled it would be impossible to let the process run its proper course before the end of the 22/23 season . That for me is key and why I believe any claims to compensation to be paid by the likes of Leeds will fail.
I personally wouldn’t get too deep into the debate about administration because thats not , in my view going to happen because primary as I say above I think that compensation won’t be appropriate but even if it were the compensation would be due to a football creditor and any NewCo that would look to take Everton out of Administration would have to pay football creditors
The press at the moment have got their claws into you . They will shift to another and my guess is that we will be next purely because we have already put our hands up.
You lot will be fine you just need to stick together, not let the bast***s grind you down and you will be fine
I personally wouldn’t get too deep into the debate about administration because thats not , in my view going to happen because primary as I say above I think that compensation won’t be appropriate but even if it were the compensation would be due to a football creditor and any NewCo that would look to take Everton out of Administration would have to pay football creditors
The press at the moment have got their claws into you . They will shift to another and my guess is that we will be next purely because we have already put our hands up.
You lot will be fine you just need to stick together, not let the bast***s grind you down and you will be fine
gwladysnight
Player Valuation: £10m
Do you understand what mitigation actually means. It doesn't absolve you of blame. It just means you should get a lighter sentence. Unfortunately that also means aggravating factors have to be taken into account as well like misleading both the Premier league and the Independent Commission.
If we were not to blame then why did we admit our guilt at the pre-trial?
We overspent because Moshiri mismanaged the finances.
You are being played by Moshiri. The club is shouting from the rooftops how unfair it is. Shouted that it was innocent of any charges and then pleaded guilty at the last moment.
Jacko93
Player Valuation: £35m
The only way to do it is with a year spend cap, regardless of incoming and a wage cap. That won't happen though.
You would have to impose a maximum spend of £100m per year with League representation within contractual transfer discussions. That way you can say with certainty that any other money spent is an attempt to defraud the system and Immediate points deductions etc.
Wage cap is near impossible though with the likes of City, United and Liverpool paying the extortionate wages they do.
I'm genuinely amused by them drawing up a new sanctions formula in the last couple of months, despite the rules being in place for ten years, and then trying to get the independent commission to use it.
Luckily you are blameless in all this aren't you precious ? When you swear and call other Evertonians names as part of you're reasoned arguments you get it back.