bernie inn
Player Valuation: £6m
We didn't get a fine because our owner's rich as I understand it
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6 + 2 Point Deductions
- Thread starter GrandOldTeam
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Lob
Player Valuation: £50m
Definitely. They can basically do whatever they want to do.
I'm fairly confident the points will be halved..
That wasn't the only reason. As I have shown we got a points deduction because of the Sheffiled Wednesday decision where a sporting advantage was inferred from an overspeed so only a sporting penalty is appropriate.
Yes. You quoted from a section titled 'Sanction Principles - The Premier League's Proposed Formula'. This section begins with an outline of EFL rules, which is the part about 12 points that you quoted.
The report then goes on to refer to the Premier League's proposed formula, which is 'similar to, but different from' the EFL's formula. The commission specifically do not use the Premier League, or indeed the EFL, formula.
This section does not deal directly with the claim of sporting advantage.
We don't know much other than it's expected before the end of the season. My guess would be that they will want it held before the last few games, because I can imagine the reaction if we get some points back (which would be entirely appropriate given the ridiculous punishment !) and it moves us out of the bottom 3.
And as I've said above the PL don't currently have a formula or didn't when all this started. I belive one has since been baught into the PL which is why they tried to introduce it but the commission said thanks but no thanks we got this...
Toffeelover
Player Valuation: £80m
What happened to neutrality ?
It should be more than half the points back. Anything more than a couple of points for a first offence, on a technical accounting point, would be totally excessive.
I think they went in harsh knowing full well we will appeal it. Then they'll settle on 4-6 points..
Jacko93
Player Valuation: £35m
A Number of people have made the claim that City or Chelsea will be playing in Norther Prem, or similar, but the points deduction will finish on eth season that they are given it. Like a life sentence of 300 years. If they get 500 points, it is simply a relegation certainty, then they start from 0 the next year in the EFL, win that and are back up evens with everybody to start again at 0 infractions.
The only way that they can do anything that will mean anything to City at all, is to make the charges across all the 9 years apply in and of themselves, within a year for each infraction.
Year one they did X, for that they will start the 2024/35 season on -30 points
Year two, they did Y, for that they will start the 2025/26 season on -30 points
Even just by doing that it doesn't condemn them to relegation, it just slows them down a bit.
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
I wouldn't expect an appeal to be heard until well into the spring. Even if it could be held earlier The PL will want to see how the season unfolds and our place in the table. It's critical as I see things, that we submit as thorough and robust an appeal as possible, regardless of where we are in the table at the time it's heard.
I don't know what team of lawyers represented us, but I'd look at that too, with a view to change. The commission's rejection of multiple mitigation arguments put forward suggests an issue with how those arguments were presented and advocated for.
I don't know what team of lawyers represented us, but I'd look at that too, with a view to change. The commission's rejection of multiple mitigation arguments put forward suggests an issue with how those arguments were presented and advocated for.
What I don't get is reading the report, the Premier league went against us at almost every point, the Commission didn't. What was the point with working so closely with the pl in the first place ? And how can they both say the Russia/ Ukraine war wasn't a mitigating factor ? Of course it was and any idiot could see that, we lost/ had to lose our main sponsor through it, the ground sponsor, £30m on approval, we has to give back, the £200m sponsorship itself and the FinchFarm USM sponsorship apparently worth £24m a year, ( started at £12m).
Considering we were only £19.5m over in the first place, that would well have seen us let off. That is unless the Pl and the Commission thought we could just stop the war at any time that is, silly me.
Considering we were only £19.5m over in the first place, that would well have seen us let off. That is unless the Pl and the Commission thought we could just stop the war at any time that is, silly me.
Toffeelover
Player Valuation: £80m
I hope that would happen. But if they did the 3 "B"s would jumping up and down in protest.