6 + 2 Point Deductions

[Tipp blue]

We should put our hands up for compensation for being banned from Europe in the 80's.

I'd be all for it... winning the CL could have catapulted us into 2 decades of success like United had.

 

[Gilbert..]

We did. 3 years ago. "Houston, we have a problem" to paraphrase. Worked with the PL on signings, and sales, to get back on track. PL even said to 3 clubs that we were compliant when they cried about 18 months ago.

Independent regulator v Everton being done? That is the PL equation.

Makes the deduction even more galling. Would love to know to what extent that went to. If their precious P&S was being scrutinized so much why not just employ a transfer ban.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

Problem is that time has run out.

Yes we’ve lodged an appeal but I very much doubt we are ready to re-present our case, the appeals panel has probably not been put in place, the hearing may take several weeks, the decision another week or so to be made public, Christmas is all but here … nope, at the earliest February

We probably want the appeal decision to come in Feb because there’s still a good chance that the appeal board (correctly) decides a more appropriate sanction for overspending is a transfer ban. If no decision is reached by then we should be looking to quickly bolster the squad for this season and next just in case, even if money is tight could look at 18 month loans or something.

 

[Bebeto]

Said this as soon as we appealed. Has to be before the transfer window really. Its currently worth Burnley/Sheffield United buying a couple of £20m players on relegation clauses, one of them might get above us if we can’t spend and get injuries.

If we were to get some points back, good vibes are back in the squad and we end up 8 points ahead of them by the window, they will/should defo save their money and plan how to spend their parachute payments. Huge knock on effect if this drags on. None of it our fault before they try to blame us.

It's rare that any team, even with money, would sign a player that would make such a difference in the starting 11....more often than not, January transfers is for cover in depth, something we do not have...it will be the same for Burnley/Sheffield

 

[Bazlar]

Everton FC - Appearances Premier League 1986/1987

Everton FC » Appearances Premier League 1986/1987

www.worldfootball.net

Apologies you are right it was 4 and yes 23 players played for you in that season

Kevin Ratcliffe. 42 appearances
Gary Stevens 25 appearances
Kevin Richardson 1 appearance
&
Ian Marshall 2 apperances

The other 19 had been transferred in

Heath & Adam’s Stoke
Harper & Sheedy Liverpool
Aspinall & Langley Wigan
T Steven Burnley, Power City
Watson Norwich,Southall Bury
Sharp Dumbarton,Wilkinson Grimsby
Reid Bolton,Snodin Leeds
Mountfield Tranmere, Pointon Scunthorpe,
Minns Rotherham, van DeHawe Birmingham
Clarke Wolves,

Some really decent players there a lot of them to be fair were made so by Kendall

When you think the whole of that midfield, Sheedy, Bracewell, Reid and Steven cost less than £1m

 

[Ruairi77]

I see that Sky pulled an Andy Burnham interview just before the United game (prob already mentioned here).
If anyone can find out who authorized pulling the interview and why, it could go a very long way to exonerating Everton.

 

[Jacko93]

Everton self notify ? Ok they submitted the required paperwork but they certainly didn’t put their hands up Prior to any charge being registered

Yes they did. Its been mentioned more than once. That's a big reason why many people feel it is so harsh.

The difference is Everton raised their hands and said, we might have a problem here with a few things that have happened out of our control. Chelsea said, "Our previous owner has made corrupt payments for players".

 

[summerisle]

I see that Sky pulled an Andy Burnham interview just before the United game (prob already mentioned here).
If anyone can find out who authorized pulling the interview and why, it could go a very long way to exonerating Everton.

Terry Venable's fault for dying, allegedly.

Sports-PULLED-interview-Mayor-Manchester-Andy-Burnham-calling-Premier-League-drop-10-point-penalty-against-Everton-Toffees-fan-calls-deeply-troubling.html

Sky Sports PULLED Burnham interview criticising Everton points penalty
Sky Sports opted not to show interview with Manchester mayor Andy Burnham
Everton fan Burnham called it 'troubling' after criticising club's points deduction
Was Garnacho's overhead kick REALLY the greatest ever? Listen to the debate on It's All Kicking Off
Sky Sport pulled an interview with Andy Burnham in which he called for the Premier League to drop their 10-point penalty against Everton.

In a move he describes as ‘deeply troubling’, the Greater Manchester mayor and Gwladys Street season ticket holder was spoken to by the broadcaster ahead of the Toffees’ 0-3 defeat to Manchester United at Goodison Park on Sunday - but the footage was not shown.

Former Cabinet Minister Burnham, who has been an outspoken critic of the competition’s controversial decision to deduct 10 points from the troubled Merseyside club for breaches of financial rules, now wants to know why.

‘I don’t know why it wasn’t broadcast and I’d very much like an explanation,’ he told Mail Sport. ‘As a former Cabinet Minister, I don’t expect third parties to decide what I can and cannot say.’

On Saturday, Sky Sports did not show footage of a plane that flew over the Etihad Stadium during the televised clash between Manchester City and Liverpool which was paid for by irate Everton fans. It carried a banner with the message ‘Premier League = corrupt’.

Mayor of Manchester Andy Burnham - who is an Everton fan - had an interview pulled by Sky Sports where he called for the Premier League to drop the Toffees' points deduction
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Mayor of Manchester Andy Burnham - who is an Everton fan - had an interview pulled by Sky Sports where he called for the Premier League to drop the Toffees' points deduction

Everton suffered the hammer blow of a 10-point deduction for breaching financial rules
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TRENDING

A number of Sky reporters covering the Friday manager press conferences were told not to ask about Everton, although the issue was raised with Sean Dyche, Mauricio Pochettino and David Moyes.

Those covering the Sunday fixture at a seething Goodison Park for Sky were also reminded of their ‘editorial responsibilities’, according to sources, before Burnham’s interview, for Sky Sports News, was dropped.

Sky insiders claim the move was made following the death of Terry Venables and subsequent shift in editorial direction.

They also say they did not turn down the volume on the numerous, noisy and expletive anti-Premier League chants from Everton fans throughout the game as they were not loud enough to merit a change to the output.

A number of Sky reporters covering the Friday manager press conferences were told not to ask about Everton - and reminded of their 'editorial responsibilities'
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A number of Sky reporters covering the Friday manager press conferences were told not to ask about Everton - and reminded of their 'editorial responsibilities'

But Burnham is unimpressed. ‘There seems to be a wider picture here with views expressed by Evertonians at the game being silenced too,’ he added. ‘I find all this very troubling. They’ve have denied us our points. It surely can’t be right to deny Evertonians our voice as well?’

Burnham has accused the Premier League of an abuse of process and says the punishment – which has plunged Sean Dyche’s side into the relegation zone – should be made null and void.

He was written to the chair of the Premier League and secretary of state for culture, media and sport, accusing the competition of regulatory malpractice for seeking to introduce a sanctions policy specific to Everton’s case midway through the investigation.

Burnham said it was 'deeply troubling' that Everton voices were being 'silenced'
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Burnham said it was 'deeply troubling' that Everton voices were being 'silenced'

Burnham, who did appear on Sophy Ridge’s Sky News show on Monday, has also alleged that they are using Everton as ‘a pawn’ in an effort to prevent the introduction of an independent regulator in football.

At Sunday’s match around 38,000 pink cards, with the Premier League logo and the word ‘corrupt’, were distributed and held aloft throughout the game by Everton supporters.

The situation comes at what could be viewed as a delicate time for broadcasters. In October the Premier League invited tenders for UK rights from 2026. The deadline for bids is this Friday, with an announcement on successful offers expected before the end of the year.

A Sky Sports spokesperson said: ‘Sky Sports has covered this news story extensively across our TV and digital channels, taking a fair and balanced approach to our reporting as always.’

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[davek]

I see that Sky pulled an Andy Burnham interview just before the United game (prob already mentioned here).
If anyone can find out who authorized pulling the interview and why, it could go a very long way to exonerating Everton.

Sky's own charter:

11. Due impartiality and due accuracy

Sky News must always be duly impartial and duly accurate. We always strive to solicit a broad range of views and voices on our stories and never to show favour to – or be influenced by – any side of a story.
The Communications Act and the Ofcom Broadcasting Code set out special impartiality requirements for coverage of matters relating to political or industrial controversy or matters relating to public policy.
The rules include:
Not allowing our personal views or opinions to form a part of our coverage.
Making sure views and facts are not misrepresented
Making sure all significant opinion is duly reflected on any controversial issues
Making sure any personal interest of a reporter or presenter is made clear to viewers - they must not use their position to express their own views

 

[Shevin Keedy]

Was a snidey piece; Will it be finished, how is it going to be paid for, that sort of stuff.

Basically blamed us for the slave trade mate, about the new ground but slander in all but name.

Oh right, missed that one. Slave trade eh? Now there's a turn up. The things you never knew you didn't know.

Blimey.

 

[Quadvod]

If that’s true about sky then they can record the next game at goodison from the blimp - don’t let them and their cameras in the premier league lickspittles

 

[Milk]

We probably want the appeal decision to come in Feb because there’s still a good chance that the appeal board (correctly) decides a more appropriate sanction for overspending is a transfer ban. If no decision is reached by then we should be looking to quickly bolster the squad for this season and next just in case, even if money is tight could look at 18 month loans or something.

TBH, I was looking at from the other bottom 6 or so clubs around us point of view.
Reinstating some or all of our points could (may be will) spanner a club or two. They will cry foul … and so it goes on

It’s a complete and utter shambles

 

[ultra]

Sky have now gone full Stalinist: first they mute our chants and photoshop out our banners.

Now they deny our voice (pulling Burnham's interview) - clearly they feel uncomfortable defending the indefensible.

 

[Rich1878]

Sky have now gone full Stalinist: first they mute our chants and photoshop out our banners.

Now they deny our voice (pulling Burnham's interview) - clearly they feel uncomfortable defending the indefensible.

Can't believe anyone is surprised by this.

That channel are just as bad as the PL. Proper arse sniffers for top 6 teams. Ran mostly by kopites

 

[Victus]