6 + 2 Point Deductions

[Johnniepk]

Good question. I would guess that HMRC dont really care how sustainable a club is, as long as it pays the tax and NI.

Yes, but they'd like you to pay more tax so they wouldnt just let you deduct any old expenses

 

[Gilbert..]

So according to sky on the new rule for transfer fees...
'Nobody wanted to punish chelsea' for spending over a billion....
But 10 points for everton for 19.5 mill

I wonder how many "new rules" will be coming out of their arse in the next 18/24 months and everybody starts on a clean slate.

 

[roydo]

Yes, but they'd like you to pay more tax so they wouldnt just let you deduct any old expenses

Indeed. Company accounts are audited, and tax/NI is paid. The deductables will be similar to the PL, but stuff like Iceland, Covid, etc wont be seen in the same light as the PL might.

 

[jazzy]

But why

ask an accountant mate

 

[davek]

If this is true then we must be planning on using him.

We have a 7 game free hit with him, use him then go from there that will be enough time to know if he's still got it or not.

Tbh I'd rather not have him anywhere near this team.

 

[Lobworm]

That has no bearing on this question about FFP.

You're probably right given the actual content of the message. Maybe I should have made my point better?

Had some of the players we bought, done a little bit better, or maybe have been a bit better quality, then maybe we'd have finished higher up the league. Perhaps we'd have qualified for the waffa? Maybe even the CL (like in 05)? Then stretching it a bit further, maybe even (dare I say) we'd actually won a pot?

So, had our recruitment been a bit better, then with a better quality playing staff, a bit more success, then our finances (due to having a more settled team) might have been better going into the pandemic.

All 'ifs and buts' admittedly, but we did an amazing job of buying absolute [Poor language removed], with largely zero sell on value, and in the main very few long term first choice players.

 

[Lee Smith]

 

[Milk]

I see PL have voted by 15 to 5 to limit player contracts on signing to a max of 5 years

In effect from next summer I think

 

[mahermi1]

I see PL have voted by 15 to 5 to limit player contracts on signing to a max of 5 years

In effect from next summer I think

Another free hit for Chelsea I see.

 

[Milk]

Another free hit for Chelsea I see.

Weirdly, they were one of the 15 but I expect they'll sign a top striker in January on a 8.5 year deal

 

[Lobworm]

This isn't true though though really is it?

Whilst we've spent a lot of money, we've received big money for Lukaku, Digne, Stones, Richarlison, Iwobi, and Kean. We've also bagged transfer fees for many others. Vlasic, Barkley etc.

Also, if you think about it, we have actually improved in our recruitment strategy. Much of the damage was done in that dreadful Walsh/Koeman spell. And contrary to popular belief we haven't flushed all the money down the toilet. Here's a breakdown and rough estimate of our current playing asset value.

Feel free to disagree with any figures here, but these are based on my own honest opinion, and if anything, I'll try to be conservative.

Pickford - £45m
Patterson - £12m
Tarkowski - £12m
Branthwaite - £60m
Mykolenko - £30m
Keane - £3m
Godfrey - £9m
Mcneil - £30m
Onana - £50m
Garner - £25m
DCL - £20m

That's £286m, and I've not included Beto, Chermiti, Gueye, Gomes, Young, Harrison, Coleman, Danjuma, Holgate and Dobbin for various reasons that should be apparent.

I'm not checking your figures mate, I trust what you've said, but we fooked ffp, after spending half a billion quid on lids, and that didn't include Barkley, Lukaku and Stones as they came before mosh.

I did a quick google of players signed since Mosh took over, and I don't think it includes the last 12 months, either way, the following list is a total car crash in terms of long term first team players/sell on value.

Yannick Bolasie
Ashley Williams
Idrissa Gueye
Dominic Calvert-Lewin
Maartenn Stekelenburg
Enner Valencia
Morgan Schneiderlin
Ademola Lookman
Gylfi Sigurdsson
Michael Keane#]
Jordan Pickford
Davy Klaassen
Henry Onyekuru
Sandro Ramirez
Wayne Rooney
Cuco Martina
Nikola Vlasic
Theo Walcott
Eliaquim Mangala
Richarlison
Yerry Mina
Lucas Digne
Kurt Zouma
Bernard
Jonas Lossl
Alex Iwobi
Jean- Philippe Gbamin
Fabian Delph
Djibril Sidibe
Moise Kean
Andre Gomes
Jarrad Branthwaite
Ben Godfrey
Allan
Abdoulaye Doucoure
Niels Nkounkou
James Rodriguez
Joshua King
Robin Olsen
Demarai Gray
Andros Townsend
Salomon Rondon
Asmir Begovic
Andy Lonergan
Vitaliy Mykolenko
Nathan Patterson
Dele Alli
Donny van de Beek
Anwar El Ghazi
Amadou Onana
Dwight McNeil
Neal Maupay
James Garner
Idrissa Gueye
James Tarkowski
Conor Coady
Ruben Vinagre

 

[mahermi1]

It’s now so late in the day that the “ Out of contract” situation dominates. If we want him and agree a say 2 year contract , we won’t play him and give him a decent wage as we‘ve saved £10 mill. If we play him , pay £10 mill he can still go elsewhere if he gets a better offer. So little point in playing him , unless we somehow believe he’s our future and he’s staying.

Thing is we've paid his wages for practically 2 years, so we owe spurs nothing, they can renegotiate all they like. This means, he is a free agent, is it end of the season.

 

[Victus]

We been found innocent yet?

 

[Charlie Sweet]

You're probably right given the actual content of the message. Maybe I should have made my point better?

Had some of the players we bought, done a little bit better, or maybe have been a bit better quality, then maybe we'd have finished higher up the league. Perhaps we'd have qualified for the waffa? Maybe even the CL (like in 05)? Then stretching it a bit further, maybe even (dare I say) we'd actually won a pot?

So, had our recruitment been a bit better, then with a better quality playing staff, a bit more success, then our finances (due to having a more settled team) might have been better going into the pandemic.

All 'ifs and buts' admittedly, but we did an amazing job of buying absolute [Poor language removed], with largely zero sell on value, and in the main very few long term first choice players.

Totally. Along with the terrible financial management we've caused all this through our own stupidity. The only person that should be targeted for all this is Moshiri. The Premier league isn't innocent of course but in the grand scheme of things they are totally irrelevant.

 

[Ferguson1878]

I'm not checking your figures mate, I trust what you've said, but we fooked ffp, after spending half a billion quid on lids, and that didn't include Barkley, Lukaku and Stones as they came before mosh.

I did a quick google of players signed since Mosh took over, and I don't think it includes the last 12 months, either way, the following list is a total car crash in terms of long term first team players/sell on value.

Yannick Bolasie
Ashley Williams
Idrissa Gueye
Dominic Calvert-Lewin
Maartenn Stekelenburg
Enner Valencia
Morgan Schneiderlin
Ademola Lookman
Gylfi Sigurdsson
Michael Keane#]
Jordan Pickford
Davy Klaassen
Henry Onyekuru
Sandro Ramirez
Wayne Rooney
Cuco Martina
Nikola Vlasic
Theo Walcott
Eliaquim Mangala
Richarlison
Yerry Mina
Lucas Digne
Kurt Zouma
Bernard
Jonas Lossl
Alex Iwobi
Jean- Philippe Gbamin
Fabian Delph
Djibril Sidibe
Moise Kean
Andre Gomes
Jarrad Branthwaite
Ben Godfrey
Allan
Abdoulaye Doucoure
Niels Nkounkou
James Rodriguez
Joshua King
Robin Olsen
Demarai Gray
Andros Townsend
Salomon Rondon
Asmir Begovic
Andy Lonergan
Vitaliy Mykolenko
Nathan Patterson
Dele Alli
Donny van de Beek
Anwar El Ghazi
Amadou Onana
Dwight McNeil
Neal Maupay
James Garner
Idrissa Gueye
James Tarkowski
Conor Coady
Ruben Vinagre

grim list that