777 Partners / Whatever the hell you like

[roydo]

Theres no doubt that theres money to be made.

But using your example.

You knock down the house, you build 3 houses and you make a profit.

No ifs, no maybes, no relegation, no massive debts, no unknown aspects.

But for sure, for a patient and clever investor, there is plenty of money to be made, its just not that attractive compared to other investments they could make instead.

It was more about me selling the house and land to someone who could see the potential. 3 weeks after Nik and I bought it, 20 plus years ago, 2 builders offered us twice what we paid for it.

The point I am clumsily making is this. On paper, our cottage is a semi, 3 bedroomed place with 2 bathrooms. In an appealing village.

In reality, it could be an investors desired purchase. Cos of potential.

There are 20 PL clubs. It isnt without risk, obvs, but I cant see the upside that buying Everton could have with many others. PL safety notwithstanding.

 

[AndyC]

Or could it be because they consider him a complete no mark in the grand scheme of things and have no obligation to respond to him?

Whilst you and admittedly plenty of others on his social platforms think he's chatting sense and that he merits a reply, he's essentially just another fella on the internet giving his opinion. I don't read much of his stuff other than what gets posted on here, me and him have spoken and he's an intelligent bloke but I don't give any weight to the argument based on the fact that Everton haven't refuted some random blokes claims.

Each to their own mate.

But if he was way off the mark over the finances, why wouldn't they want or ask for a retraction and apology ?

 

[windymiller]

True enough for most fans, but there has to be something (positive) Everton about us that can be carried over to the BMD. The question is what is it?
The EitC one is concerning though.

The fans remain the same but my worry is that younger people in the North West have got loads of very successful teams to choose from. When you walk around the city now there is noticeably less blue than there used to be.

Don't worry about EitC, my comment was based on my own paranoia and a complete lack of faith in our ownership, there's no actual threat to them that I know of.

 

[windymiller]

Each to their own mate.

But if he was way off the mark over the finances, why wouldn't they want or ask for a retraction and apology ?

Because he's just Paul on Twitter and they don't think about him at all?

 

[AndyC]

Because he's just Paul on Twitter and they don't think about him at all?

Rest assured Windy, they are perfectly well aware who he is.

 

[blue to the bone]

Each to their own mate.

But if he was way off the mark over the finances, why wouldn't they want or ask for a retraction and apology ?

Maybe because he's irrelevant to them ?

 

[AndyC]

Maybe because he's irrelevant to them ?

Highly unlikely.

 

[mikel_88]

Esk is sound with a calculator, spot on.

As far as him being ITK, not so much.

Have no problem with him just dont imo i dont think what he says about the financial side of the club should be used as a fact. i have said that he has got things right on the financial side, is just my view . I am glad we get different sides of into on twitter about the club and is good we get somebody looking into this.

 

[windymiller]

Rest assured Windy, they are perfectly well aware who he is.

I doubt he keeps them up at night.

 

[AndyC]

We're in danger of wavering way Off Topic, talking about Esk when the thread is about 777.

 

[Bungle]

Each to their own mate.

But if he was way off the mark over the finances, why wouldn't they want or ask for a retraction and apology ?

Because they don't care enough about him or his audience and don't believe that his opinion has any sway in the wider picture?

 

[Dr Baxter]

The fans remain the same but my worry is that younger people in the North West have got loads of very successful teams to choose from. When you walk around the city now there is noticeably less blue than there used to be.

Don't worry about EitC, my comment was based on my own paranoia and a complete lack of faith in our ownership, there's no actual threat to them that I know of.

Nooooo. Not this again. Never mind replica jerseys etc, we have an extremely healthy cohort of young kids, teens and young adults who go the match. To be fair, one thing EFC did get right over the last 30 odd years is keeping the prices down for kids and under 16's. That has ensured we have plenty of new blood going the match. Fear not. In fact, I expect more youngsters than ever will be making their way down to the new gaff on the Mersey.

 

[blueboy72]

Not sure why people take what this guy says for facts, the esk does have info on the club but the way he says it is facts. About how much the club can spend, trqnsfers ext has got plenty wrong. Yes he does have some better ideas on the money side but again does not have all the facts.

Like I posted after this, he’s blocked me, because I’ve pulled him up on twitter, I’m no expert, but he’s has got things wrong and he’s got things right. But like you say, he want listen to other’s opinion’s imo.

And his glass is always half empty, Everything is negative, if a story broke in football, he’d be straight on twitter to use it as a negative towards Everton

 

[mikel_88]

We're in danger of wavering way Off Topic, talking about Esk when the thread is about 777.

From being close to deal on tuesday the whole deal just looks a mess really hope we stay clear from them

 

[siddharth]

I think we are expensive. A billion quid for a team that is in it's third consecutive relegation battle, and is one of the favourites to actually be relegated this year, and that has more liabilities than it currently has in assets doesn't seem like a good bet. We also generate comparatively little commercially than other clubs, I suppose you could argue that that means there is scope for growth but I'm not sure myself.

In terms of football as entertainment, have you watched us play for the past six seasons? It's painful stuff.

Everton fans who have started following over the last couple of years should be in it for the painful stuff, we are an open advert for masochism and kinky basement stuff. I mean footballers rejecting us for southampton and forest, then there is leeds and danjuma incident... really, really painful stuff.

Well, the price quoted is varied as per different sources, and theesk quotes one for a complete buyout I think, debt wiped clean, and no strings attached. The investors will look at how much of the strings can be ignored and if there are ways to restructure the debt if they can't meet that valuation. I agree with your view about the current value of the squad and assets. But that remains as the book value of Everton and that is it. When Chelsea and Man Utd for instance quoted 3-10billion, it is based on the book value+brand value. In such a scenario, Everton being in the 4th most successful club in the Prem and having been in the League for 100+ years in addition to the stories and narratives that can be created just from our history is well worth the layout. Mind you, the geordies reputation before the take over was not all peachy, and it is not all that far back either, I refer you to the Joey Barton era incident(s). All you need is a little spit, and we can all pat ourselves on the back for turning up to matches and the club can also get in on the act by simply following basic hygiene.