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A divided fan base still when we are playing great football
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Did you enjoy the win and the goalscorers tonight mate?
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I'll take down dat coal powered MG, I tel u Hwat
I hope you didn't. Say ten hail Mary's and whip yourself repeatedly if you did. Shame on you.
Saint Domingo
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There was loads last season saying ‘it was only Brighton, it was only West Brom etc.’, they got all giddy when we finally lost to Southampton. There’s loads of them on here that just revel in Everton being rubbish.
I think Benitez will give far less days of the apathetic Everton Ancelotti could churn out. Ancelotti though gave us James and some wornderful moments. People forget now but his record in his first 12 months with us was brilliant. If Benitez can do the same we’ll be back on the right path and hopefully this time it’s not derailed by injury and everyone from manager to players downing tools for the second half of the season.
I think Benitez will give far less days of the apathetic Everton Ancelotti could churn out. Ancelotti though gave us James and some wornderful moments. People forget now but his record in his first 12 months with us was brilliant. If Benitez can do the same we’ll be back on the right path and hopefully this time it’s not derailed by injury and everyone from manager to players downing tools for the second half of the season.
He deserved us thank goodness'''..'....
Real competition for places this term will stop the downing of tools I reckon. The effort is coming from the fact nobody's name is automatic on that team sheet this season unlike last. As for the manager downing tools, well Ancelotti looked on us as a gift from the Gods whilst his seat at Madrid was cleared. Fans saw it but Evertons owners and bill payers didn't.. Manic.
Again I don't think it's unreasonable to argue that it hasn't all been very good. The League Cup match for example was one of those were the result papered over large cracks that appear when squad depth gets stretched.
The first half tonight I don't think I was alone thinking about how many times we see Everton fail to turn up when there's an inkling of expectancy. Not for the entirety of it but certainly during long spells. But the first thing I did when Burnley scored was stick a tenner on Everton as I'd seen enough to fancy us to score and going behind pushed the price out to a very appealing 9/1.
Because as poor as we were in spells it didn't mean I could only see negatives. So it's just as valid to see a few good results but still be wary of thinking a corner has definitely been turned. Over the long term there's a correlation between performances and results but over the first few games of a season it's a little less accurate.
I wouldn't defend the anti-Benitez stance as he is Everton's manager regardless of his past and is doing fine work with limited resources. But cautious optimism or tempered expectancy based on clear shortcomings isn't a bad thing. As miserable as it may seem it's better than those who will proclaim 5 wins on the bounce as evidence of a Second Coming but then lose their heads if there is an unlucky 4 or 5 game winless streak, claim the club is in crisis and soak mattresses with their insight into the exact mental attitude of players they've never spoken to and the various failings at Finch Farm despite never having set foot in the place.
To be fair I believe we put out a true 2nd 11 that night to prove what they were made of. A first 11 last year would have struggled in that sort of battle..
Not sure about that - finding a way to accommodate your biggest players against Burnley isn't a disgraceful or dour tactical decision. So long as Digne, Coleman and Doucore got forward with Richarlison, Gray and Townsend then there was plenty of attacking options.
I agree it was a very 2nd XI but I think early last season a first 11 was pretty comfortable against lower league oppo in the League Cup. It never developed into that sort of battle.
NathDogg
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Where were the plentiful attacking options first half then mate? Plus the 3cbs were getting bullied by wood and that groxk Barnes cos they didn't know their jobs or take control - they both got better when Godfrey went off (which I assume was fitness related.).
We played right into Dyches and Burnley's hands setting up like that - far too negative.
At least Benitez adapted and changed things just after going behind, and I thought Townsend was great attacking and supporting Coleman defensively.
Mike Tyson coudn't bully Mina.
Benitez baby steps, winning hearts and minds
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Let's see how we go when we lose, which we will and how the manner of the loss came about.
aka, see how were travelling in November - then talk us up
One
Game
At
A
Time
Edit;
Let's see how we go when we lose, which we will and how the manner of the loss came about.
aka, see how were travelling in November - then talk us up
True bullying was what Millwall did to us in the FA Cup a few years back. Not recovered from it since then until this season. Ask Leeds.
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