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Ademola Lookman

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tommye said:
So it's everybody else's fault?
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Koeman signed bolasie so he’d pick him and lookman was very young when signed so not breaking in the team under koeman is understandable, unsworth had about 4 games to try secure the job and was crap, fat Sam doesn’t like attacking players and if you can’t remebrr how boring and defensive we were under him then please tell me how you forgot because it still haunts me. RBL are a decent team and have a proven track record of finding good youth players and they loaned him, and have kept going for him for the last 3 windows.
 
Toffeepot said:
But it isn't his only attribute... he wins the ball back, has pace on the counter, an excellent first touch, doesn't lose the ball easily, his team mates like playing with him and say so, works hard in defense. Hadn't played in 6 months and then settled into a new league pretty well. Could do with more goals and direct assists sure but you are quoting Lookman hitting the bar as a major highlight. I agree AL has talent but he doesn't have most of Bernard's qualities that I listed there. We all hoped he would but he clearly didn't do enough to justify it. Silva has done much more for Everton than Lookman has so it is strange you doubt him but not Lookman
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Which of those qualities do you not see in Lookman?

For me he doesn't work as hard but he's an attacker and his work specifically on the pitch is more than accurate. He does have trouble retaining possession at times but that also tends to work itself out with experience. It's tough to say if they'd like playing with him since they hardly have.
 
Toffeepot said:
But it isn't his only attribute... he wins the ball back, has pace on the counter, an excellent first touch, doesn't lose the ball easily, his team mates like playing with him and say so, works hard in defense. Hadn't played in 6 months and then settled into a new league pretty well. Could do with more goals and direct assists sure but you are quoting Lookman hitting the bar as a major highlight. I agree AL has talent but he doesn't have most of Bernard's qualities that I listed there. We all hoped he would but he clearly didn't do enough to justify it. Silva has done much more for Everton than Lookman has so it is strange you doubt him but not Lookman
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Hitting the bar isn’t exactly a highlight but he had ten minutes and come closer to scoring than any of the other players the whole match .
 
A good game to rewatch and see how good he is would be the second half of City away. He is involved in the build up to our first goal and also creates two chances, one more or less a sitter for Walcott, but neither are taken and we don't get back in it. He made a complete mess of Kyle Walker.
 
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TheBigIguana said:
Which of those qualities do you not see in Lookman?

For me he doesn't work as hard but he's an attacker and his work specifically on the pitch is more than accurate. He does have trouble retaining possession at times but that also tends to work itself out with experience. It's tough to say if they'd like playing with him since they hardly have.
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And here in lies the problem, you seem to think very highly of him but have seen a lot less of him than Silva and his team mates. I've seen players get annoyed with him for poor decisions and never say they enjoy playing with him like they have with Bernard. He clearly wants to go, not worth keeping as he isn't going to be first choice and he feels he should be it seems. Cash in move on
 
tommye said:
I've been going to Goodison watching Everton for over 45 years now. You can throw as many as you want at me for all I care. I know an ungrateful, lazy, petulant little gobshite when I see one and this kid fits the bill.

Hoof his arse as far away, and for as much money as possible, as soon as possible
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That's fine if that's what you think. But I'd caution you that in this next decade talented footballers are going to be like that. Maybe not as much as you think Lookman is but more than they have been. I don't know if you follow the NBA but that is every top player except maybe 2 or 3. That's how this generation is.
 
As long as we've got a good sell on for when he goes to City or Chelsea for 50m in 18 months, I'm all good with it. Never wanted to be here from the off, wasn't he kipping in a hotel in the city for about a year or something?
 
There's a relevant article in the Independent about Marcus Edwards, a Spurs attacking midfielder who came through their academy, played for England at U16, U17, U18, U19 and U20, and who Pochettino once compared to a young Lionel Messi:

It took until the winter break - four weeks off over Christmas - for Edwards to come back and feel truly comfortable in Rotterdam, and to show what he can do. “After the winter break, I got my head down a bit more, and it was just straight football,” he says. “I think I turned it around.” It helped that his father Darren moved out to Rotterdam to be with him. In Excelsior’s first game after the break, Edwards was brilliant in a 3-2 defeat at Vitesse, skipping through defenders and finding the bottom corner from outside the box. Vitesse manager Leonid Slutsky said afterwards Edwards was an “incredible player”.

What mattered most during his time in Holland, even more than the football, was that Edwards realised what it took to be a professional player. How to take responsibility, looking after himself, training hard, tracking back, doing all the ugly, boring side of the game. The things that maybe did not come so naturally to him, but the things that you have to do to make it in the game.
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Marcus Edwards is 20 and has been made available for transfer by Tottenham.

Sometimes, despite all the praise, despite all the potential, despite the player attempting to change his 'natural game', it just doesn't work out. Edwards played in more England age groups than Lookman and is slightly younger. I'll be fascinated to see if they get 20 million for him.
 


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