2023/24 Amadou Onana

[Walken]

Absolutely pathetic pile on by a group of clowns who are genuinely gutted this is the first window they've had to attack him due to his good form. There is a real shameful element to our fanbase.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

That's not my recollection mate.

His most important penalty in his career was for Wigan to keep them in the Prem, and this is how he took it;

He nearly always just rolled them in.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Whoah there cowboy. I simply stated that you cant argue against somebody's arrogance by using a comparison to one the most arrogant footballers in the game. Cantona was one of the best footballers that the EPL has seen, Onana has a long way to go to get there. All this despite the fact that Cantona only ever took one penalty remotely like Onanas. It was saved. The whole hop skip and jump that players do these days is an absolute mystery to me. Just hit the thing and strike it sweetly, sometimes they get saved, but at least strike the thing well.

In my opinion, purely on what I saw last night, Onana forgot the team and wanted to walk off with a swagger. That moment in time became all about him. Win something or prove something, then you can stroll about arrogantly. Interestingly enough, as we were talking at the game, we were saying that we hoped Onana wasn't on Pen 5, as he had watched the keeper go the same way almost every time and he thought it would be easy. I hope he doesn't make that mistake again and I suspect he wont. He may well take the same style penalty again, he may well miss again, whatever, but from what I saw, that moment, for him, was about him, not the team.

I'm over it now anyway, big game coming up at the weekend and I hope that Onana has a big part to play in it, as we know that he can.

I've absolutely no idea why you would say that though, it's a completely bizarre take. He used a completely normal penalty technique and missed. Big deal. Accusations of arrogance imply a dislike of the players attitude which isn't justified and seems to have an ulterior motive (maybe subconscious bias?)

 

[Lapeno77]

I said this. He thinks he's Ronaldo/Messi/Mbappe.

To take a penalty like that is a disgrace and disrespectful to the fans and his team mates.

Dyche should drop him next game.

To be honest, it was in keeping with Messi's penalty track record

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Well it’s not really, I mean I would hope he’d give his best performance against Spurs regardless of what happened last night. He could have put us through last night with a competent penalty and put in a good performance v Spurs.

In reality it looks likely we’ll stay up this season so when it comes to the end of the season that moment is very very influential in a negative manner on the season’s outcomes. We have three opportunities per season to win a trophy, one of them being extremely unlikely, when you have a kick to get into the semi final of the easiest one of the three to win and you address it the way he did then quite simply putting in a decent shift in the next league game does not make up for that. He cost the club quite simply and he needs to repay that back over a long period now before people forget it.

A twitter follower of mine stated a point away at Spurs would be a bigger result than getting through to the semi final's yesterday.

BK's Legacy for you - no ambition.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Please give specific examples of when his attitude stank?

I get how the technique can be seen as arrogant but I just don't see a poor attitude in the player.

It's basically resorting to a known trope (maybe subconsciously). Lukaku also experienced the same stuff while he was here.

 

[Swagger]

I'd rather we kept both.

There's nothing to suggest that onana thinks he's more important than the team. That's a huge leap to take after a poor penalty.

The way he took the penalty spoke volumes. Gueye isn't getting any grief because he probably didn't even want to take a penalty in the first instance and it was the regulation penalty off the post. He made a decision hit it well enough but hey ho.
The way Onana approached the penalty rightly or wrongly gave the impression of oh this will be good for me and this is my moment rather than actually thinking more about dispatching the penalty itself.

 

[Saint Domingo]

He missed a penalty in a penalty shoot out, it’s disappointing but it happens

Avoiding relegation is way more important, I’m not as confident as you that we will

If he steps up and hits it hard into a corner or down the middle and the keeper guesses correctly and saves it then that’s disappointing and it happens.

When he fails to execute a joke penalty when he literally has a semi final place in his hands then that’s a slap in the face to the fans in my view.

His league form and this are not mutually exclusive. It doesn’t matter if he’s played decently before this or puts in a shift afterwards. He’s being paid a lot of money by this club to do exactly that, I expect him to perform well for us most weeks. I can still criticise him for being an absolute divvy with that penalty though. It’s cost us a shot at a trophy and in case anyone hasn’t noticed we’ve not won one since 1995, we can’t be passing up penalty kicks to take us into cup semi finals, it’s just not on, no ifs no buts, it was an absolute cock up of monumental proportions, of course we’ll all move on but people are making out like fans were waiting for an opportunity to jump on him as if he’s somehow the victim in all of this, fans are angry with him because they pay their money and his clowning around has contributed to us yet again being out of a cup.

Fans want to take their kids to Wembley, have a miniscule amount of bragging rights for a day or two, have a good feeling about the team they support, god forbid live to see their team lift a trophy again.

Its going to be difficult enough to do any of those things given the situation the club is in so when there’s an opportunity to take a step towards than and all anyone has to do is competently address a ball from a penalty spot it’s not a surprise when fans are absolutely infuriated when instead this player is incapable of doing this.

 

[Saint Domingo]

A twitter follower of mine stated a point away at Spurs would be a bigger result than getting through to the semi final's yesterday.

BK's Legacy for you - no ambition.

We were more likely to get something from Spurs had Onana kicked the ball in the net last night than pass it to the keeper. The two are unrelated. Weirdly winning games keeps momentum and leads to better results, all our previous cup exits haven’t done anything for the club so I just don’t understand this arguments from fans.

The club doesn’t exist to have a pleasing balance sheet and be mid table fodder for the premier league top 6 (although some fans seem to want this). It’s supposed to have an ambition to win trophies.

 

[trueblue84]

The way he took the penalty spoke volumes. Gueye isn't getting any grief because he probably didn't even want to take a penalty in the first instance and it was the regulation penalty off the post. He made a decision hit it well enough but hey ho.
The way Onana approached the penalty rightly or wrongly gave the impression of oh this will be good for me and this is my moment rather than actually thinking more about dispatching the penalty itself.

Half the Fulham players did stupid run-ups to their penalties. I even thought the ref was going to make one of them take it again because he clearly stopped his run before striking the ball.

It's part of the modern game now and will happen again.

It was a poor penalty, but I do not believe in any way that onana believes he is more important than the team.

 

[pfim]

The way he took the penalty spoke volumes. Gueye isn't getting any grief because he probably didn't even want to take a penalty in the first instance and it was the regulation penalty off the post. He made a decision hit it well enough but hey ho.
The way Onana approached the penalty rightly or wrongly gave the impression of oh this will be good for me and this is my moment rather than actually thinking more about dispatching the penalty itself.

You should check out the Gueye thread.

 

[dannyboy]

Absolutely pathetic pile on by a group of clowns who are genuinely gutted this is the first window they've had to attack him due to his good form. There is a real shameful element to our fanbase.

Bit of criticism for a shocking penalty is hardly shameful. Think people are just genuinely gutted we're not in a semi final.

 

[davep]

Some absolutely awful hot takes in this thread since last night.

 

[davep]

Absolutely pathetic pile on by a group of clowns who are genuinely gutted this is the first window they've had to attack him due to his good form. There is a real shameful element to our fanbase.

Exactly. 100% this. Some ppl need to take a good look at themselves, especially a few of the more established users who should know better than the absolute tripe that has been posted.

 

[Baines' left foot]

Must be good to finally have a target for all that rage that’s been building since we’ve been good.

Must be angry about something at all times to justify miserable outlook on life.