2022/23 Anthony Gordon

[BlueToff]

If nothing’s decided by Saturday, will he play at Brentford?

I imagine so, if nothing is decided

 

[BlueToff]

If Gordon stays he will need a huge wage increase now. Can’t demand 60m and then not make him the top earner

And imagine making a 21-year-old with half a decent season under his belt, and 4 goals, your top earner.

 

[BlueToff]

Yeah, im in the sell camp myself (due to necessity not preference), my point is we cant overlook the need to replace the hard work.
Getting in two Hammy R's would replace goals/assists but the team would get sunk.

100%

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

It’s hypothetical that Gordon will add goals and assists to his game. So let’s go with hypotheticals on this too.. Anthony Gordon plays for X (not Everton). Y (also not Everton) are in the market for winger/forward. Y approach X with a view to purchase Gordon. You as a fan of Y, see this linked on sky sports news. Do you a fan of Y.. looking at Gordon at this point in his career really think he is 60m quid of football player. Forgot the market and saying if Grealish was that then Gordon should be this.. take the market out of it and look at the single player objectively does this players stats justify 60m expenditure? I’m just trying to suss out what value you put on a player like Gordon yourself based on his current ability, not prospective value/development as you appear to disagree he is a 25m player at present, tops, in terms of what he brings to winning football games.

That you are saying forget the market means that you have just waisted your time writing that, I am sorry to say.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Advocating selling Gordon for me is akin to the following.

An old woman has a son and a prized cow, one morning the boy goes out and returns with magic beans and no cow having sold it for these. Cue a furious mother - only in this story as Everton you'd have the rest of the family saying to the mum 'give him the prized horse as well he'll sell it well this time mum'.

If the board have got us into a position where we can't sign a forward unless we sell another player, then we need to sell. We need a goalscorer above all else or we will go down.

But if that's the case then heads need to roll at board room level. It's totally unacceptable and every day that goes by it gets worse.

 

[twoblue]

And imagine making a 21-year-old with half a decent season under his belt, and 4 goals, your top earner.

Yep. It’s a good deal alround to shift sell him at 60m

 

[BlueToff]

Like Toney?

Or Terrier?

I don't think we'd ever ever be in for Toney though would we.

Terrier would have been great, but he's probably staying at Rennes. There's other players who offer more than Gordon does that wouldn't cost £60m. But it's about if the club have had the foresight to scout them, which they absolutely should have done. Whether they have done of course is a different matter.

If we get £50m and Broja on loan, would you not be happy?

A) Fills a problem in the squad and gets a high priority target. B) Everton have cash to play with and it's a huge plus for the P&L, so the cash is here not just now, but in January too.

 

[bluestevon]

Simply put, players who have the natural ability (first touch, close control, ability to beat a man, and blistering pace that Gordon has) very very very rarely also have the degree of work ethic and desire to push themselves to improve as well, can think of very few instances and invariably they are world class players the ones I can think off.

Natural ability tends to be taken a bit for granted and the attitude and desire to improve suffers a little, AG is very much a rarity in that he has both.

He's no Barkley, Greenwood, Rashfir, Martial etc far from it, the likes of De Bruyne, Vardy, Ronaldo (yeah the best ever probably) had the ability and the character to push every ounce of that talent, will Gordon ever be that good, who knows but he has the chance due to his personal make up

 

[st.domingo]

If you were Everton, would you sign Sigurdsson for £45 million - and that happening in the 2017 market, too?

Tbf is there even anyone who thought this was a good idea at the time?

 

[BlueToff]

We are not in a position to be competing for the top young talent, sadly.

We are also not in a position to turn down £50-60m for someone who has directly contributed to 9 Everton goals in his senior career of 61 games in all competitions, mate, to be fair.

 

[Rv_blue]

If you were Everton, would you sign Sigurdsson for £45 million - and that happening in the 2017 market, too?

Can you try and put up a fair comparison, atleast players in the same position/stage in their careers etc because this is desperate - we can then look at them in their respective markets..

 

[Paul Rideout]

Having seen Warrington, Welch and Mills last night, I honestly think we’ll get over Gordon pretty quickly.

 

[bluestevon]

It's not about what we would spend it's about what this allows to spend.

Getting 50m in now as pure profit could allow us to spend over double that without FFP issues.

And create problems further down the line due to spending beyond our income - we will not be spending 100m+ in a few days, and fooling yourself into thinking we can/will is madness mate.

 

[willo30]

And create problems further down the line due to spending beyond our income - we will not be spending 100m+ in a few days, and fooling yourself into thinking we can/will is madness mate.

But imagine what our income would be if we were relegated.

We were a better team for selling Rooney when we were on our knees. Can see the same outcome here.

 

[BlueToff]

And create problems further down the line due to spending beyond our income - we will not be spending 100m+ in a few days, and fooling yourself into thinking we can/will is madness mate.

No it doesn't mate.

Obviously, we would not spend £100m over the next week, but the 3-year period would have a major boost by showing such an income.

It also allows us to have the capability to do that if we needed, perhaps over the rest of this window and January, which would be offset by future sales, which is how you actually run a club - sustainably and based on player trading.

Downpayments would still have to be sensible, but it would free up funds we otherwise wouldn't have been able to use.