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Arsenal 1-0 Everton.

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BigBlueBalls said:
Howard - no chance with the goal, made a good save from Gervinho and although I don't like keepers punching the ball out he did ok.
Hibbert - strong challenges, good covering and tried to get forward - its just that the team dont trust him to cross it properly from wide (or anywhere else)
Jags - solid
Heits - did well
Baines - had a torrid time vs Walcotts pace, had little or no protection from Bily. Crosses werent up to usual high standard.
Fellaini - poor, lost the ball to much, and sometimes just gave it away for free. Also made some bad decisions.
Neville - just not up to covering enough ground to be a midfielder, his brother knew when he couldn't cut it, so whats the story.
Coleman - bad decisions, bad crosses, did look to make a break but then the play got slowed down around him and he got repeatedly crowded out.
Bily - Awful, woeful, is he playing drunk? does he need to be able to be drunk to play well? crossing was the worst ever, not even pub league standard. How did he get offside so much? wouldnt move his feet, just a lazy swine. Time to go, Radzinski was a knobhead but at least he moved his legs.
Saha - expected him to have a broken arm or collarbonewhen he took a tumble on around ten minutes, was uneffective. Past it.
Cahill - tries hard, shouldnt have been allowed to play through injury earlier in the season, and doesnt have the passing to help others help him with decent service.
Subs - not enough time to judge.
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hang on there blue balls ,someone said billy was by far r best player , ive got a 4 year old scotty dog that would of caused arsenal more problems then that useless peice of ****e .he gives you f,all
 
paulbefc said:
Baines has played left mid in the past and was largely ineffective. He isn't going to run past anyone and so needs to overlap the winger or take pull backs to get space to cross. He's not a tricky winger who can make his own space. He's slow.
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I think we should just stop trying to think Baines should be the main focus of creativity in the team in any position

No club in the world has their left back their driving force.
 
Thought we were poor first half , just couldnt keep hold of the ball , giving it away far too easily , and fairly lucky to go in level , Walcott should have done more with the chance presented to him , while we , again , didnt look like scoring at all .

The first sub is a very strange one , the minutes leading up to it was our best spell of the game possession wise and we were getting into the game a bit more , was Louis injured ? If not its a poor substitution to make at a poor time .

My link broke after the wonder strike , was a bit surprised when I heard the last 2 subs , but hear Conor was unlucky with a strike , could have done with that .

We need 4-6 points from these next two , and it aint gonna be easy .
 
fozzy said:
give our young players like barkley,gauye,top scorer velli ect.... the chance to become influential players!

or change our formation to suit our players now those players have left!
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Barkley needed to be contracted.

Vellios has been handed a couple of starts, completely ineffective. Lets not cripple his confidence because of our desperation. He's showed promise from the bench, the lad isn't ready to spearhead the attack.

Gueye I partly agree with, but he's been injured.

The fact is, we've got no nous in the middle of the park or on the wing an we don't have a decent striker. Until we do, 8th-12th is surely the best we can expect and achieve?
 

GrandOldTeam said:
Barkley needed to be contracted.


Vellios has been handed a couple of starts, completely ineffective. Lets not cripple his confidence because of our desperation. He's showed promise from the bench, the lad isn't ready to spearhead the attack.

Gueye I partly agree with, but he's been injured.

The fact is, we've got no nous in the middle of the park or on the wing an we don't have a decent striker. Until we do, 8th-12th is surely the best we can expect and achieve?
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Cant we just play better football first?
 
DualityNSNO said:
Oh you haven't?

Then why do you keep on pressing and thinking that you know anything about managing though?
My point was that I could argue about anything you said that it was not correct (not everything though, you may be right about something, not saying anything bad). And I stand by that. Until I get pissed at how much more can you swerve the subject in point and just go all passive against it and give up on your pointless ways.

The first sign of showing you know nothing or you're lying is to keep side-tracking from the main point. I'm guessing anyone should know that.
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Woah wtf are you on about? I have no idea what all this "lying" is that I've been doing. Ok, if I go back to your original point about how, because you have managed, you can challenge my point, I took that as, because I was standing up for Moyes, that you thought your educated opinion somehow matched up to his, hence my second comment. Guess I misread that completely. On realising this, yes, of course you can challenge my point. I have not once tried to swerve any subject, I think I just misunderstood you. My ways aren't pointless. I don't even get what that's supposed to mean. I have not once lied on here or side-tracked.
 
ijjysmith said:
Any excuse to show this...
[video=youtube;wc4nakKF10I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc4nakKF10I[/video]

I think that's the 5th time i've posted that goal on this forum!!
Remember it so well, i went nuts.
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I think the most surprising thing about that is we had not two, but THREE strikers on the pitch.
 
GrandOldTeam said:
If we win our game in hand, we rise to 8th.

Do we have the players to justify anything above 8th place?
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And if we don't we're just 2 losses away from the relegation zone.

You could have 11 world class players in a crap formation with crap tactics VS 11 average players in a perfect formation with spot on tactics.

Which is more likely to win?

Yeah sure like i said its not easy when you lose quality players. But are we really getting the best out of whats left?

Ignore where we are in the league becuase that can be affected by other teams as well as us.

2005 is a perfect example. As is 2006. One got the best out of a team and one didn't.

A better manager tactically would have this squad doing better of that i'm sure.
 
thebluefox said:
hang on there blue balls ,someone said billy was by far r best player , ive got a 4 year old scotty dog that would of caused arsenal more problems then that useless peice of ****e .he gives you f,all
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There are a few people that have said Bily was World Class today and he could have run rings around the 1970 Brazil team on his own, but I agree with you, he is so poor its just not funny anymore. And I have been told to put the crack pipe down today.

What seems to have missed everyone else is that Arsenal had no fullbacks on the pitch today. None. He didn't trouble his man except for when he stumbled through his man that didn't want to then foul him.
We miss the hard running and industry (as well as the covering) Pienaar provided.

The applause before the game from the Arsenal fans was for Bily, cos they though he was one of their new statues. The lazy fekker moves so damn slow.
 

paulbefc said:
Baines has played left mid in the past and was largely ineffective. He isn't going to run past anyone and so needs to overlap the winger or take pull backs to get space to cross. He's not a tricky winger who can make his own space. He's slow.
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You could say much of that about Pienaar...what Pienaar had in that position was the ability to carry the ball and link up - not just with Baines overlapping him but bringing the ball inside. It's a nonsense to suggest Baines couldn't move up the pitch and produce a performance. Take a look around, the current situation isn't working - stick with Baines at LB and Bily/Osman/Drenthe in front of him and watch him continue to struggle. If Pieanaar came back we'd settle again. He isn't coming back so let's see some change.
 

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